RE: My heart is breaking... I thought Christians are suppose to love "unconditionally"
December 29, 2015 at 7:11 pm
(This post was last modified: December 29, 2015 at 7:13 pm by Brian37.)
Some advice, while you did come to your senses, emotional reasons are not valid reasons to accept or reject any claim, on any issue, not just religion. If you saw hypocrisy in others behavior, that only addresses morality, it still does not address scientific evidence for rejecting ANY god claim.
Secondly, it isn't just enough to say "that makes no sense", it is also important to know scientifically how the world works. It is also important to learn all the slick snake oil arguments theists pull on you that can suck you back in. There are very elaborate apologists who write long books of tripe trying to convince you that they have the one real god and the one right book. But they all do this, not just Christians. I have been debating online for 15 years and see apologists from Jews and Islam and Hinduism, and other religions as well.
One slick trick I have seen all the major religion's apologists pull is they try to debunk science, then when they cannot do that they try to co opt it to say it matches their holy book. But again, this isn't just Christianity, they all do it. And don't worry if you run into some theist who seems to stump you, don't give up right then, take what they say and pass it by other skeptics multiple skeptics first.
If you have no reading list, and take your time because it took me years to read these, unless you are a bookworm and love reading you can get through them quicker.
2000 Years of Disbelief, By James Haught isn't scientific, but it uses skeptics quotes from antiquity to modern day to show you it is ok to question
The God Delusion, Richard Dawkins
God Is Not Great, Christopher Hitchens, (He can be really Oxford wordy) But this is his easiest read.
The End Of Faith, Sam Harris, although I am not a fan of his Buddhism fetish.
Letter To a Christian Nation, Sam Harris
"God The Failed Hypothesis" Victor Stenger
"The New Atheism" Victor Stinger.
"Infidel" Ayaan Hirsi Ali
If you don't know these scientists you should.
Neil Degrasse Tyson, he hosted "Cosmos" series on Fox, really good science for laypeople.
Richard Dawkins
Lawrence Krauss
Brian Greene
Bill Nye, but everyone knows him
Others will add to this list and the books above, but again, take your time.
Terms you should know.
"Fallacy of Pascal's wager"
"Ocham's Razor"
"Epicurus the problem with evil"
And again, you are not alone, many were once where you are at. And never be afraid of getting stumped. Just bring their arguments here, and we will be happy to rip them apart.
Secondly, it isn't just enough to say "that makes no sense", it is also important to know scientifically how the world works. It is also important to learn all the slick snake oil arguments theists pull on you that can suck you back in. There are very elaborate apologists who write long books of tripe trying to convince you that they have the one real god and the one right book. But they all do this, not just Christians. I have been debating online for 15 years and see apologists from Jews and Islam and Hinduism, and other religions as well.
One slick trick I have seen all the major religion's apologists pull is they try to debunk science, then when they cannot do that they try to co opt it to say it matches their holy book. But again, this isn't just Christianity, they all do it. And don't worry if you run into some theist who seems to stump you, don't give up right then, take what they say and pass it by other skeptics multiple skeptics first.
If you have no reading list, and take your time because it took me years to read these, unless you are a bookworm and love reading you can get through them quicker.
2000 Years of Disbelief, By James Haught isn't scientific, but it uses skeptics quotes from antiquity to modern day to show you it is ok to question
The God Delusion, Richard Dawkins
God Is Not Great, Christopher Hitchens, (He can be really Oxford wordy) But this is his easiest read.
The End Of Faith, Sam Harris, although I am not a fan of his Buddhism fetish.
Letter To a Christian Nation, Sam Harris
"God The Failed Hypothesis" Victor Stenger
"The New Atheism" Victor Stinger.
"Infidel" Ayaan Hirsi Ali
If you don't know these scientists you should.
Neil Degrasse Tyson, he hosted "Cosmos" series on Fox, really good science for laypeople.
Richard Dawkins
Lawrence Krauss
Brian Greene
Bill Nye, but everyone knows him
Others will add to this list and the books above, but again, take your time.
Terms you should know.
"Fallacy of Pascal's wager"
"Ocham's Razor"
"Epicurus the problem with evil"
And again, you are not alone, many were once where you are at. And never be afraid of getting stumped. Just bring their arguments here, and we will be happy to rip them apart.
