Meaningfulness v meaninglessness; theism vs atheism;

[Edwardo Piet]

Yeah but any good myth/story should hit on truths ( I mean that in the absolute sense)

That's irrelevant to the fact that imaginary meaning is still meaning.

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Actually, it absolutely is an apt analogy.

I love alliteration.

Me too!!

How exactly does it add meaning to one's life if it is meaningless by nature?

If it feels meaningful despite the fact there is no objective meaning... who gives a shit?

Because it is not harmless at all to think of oneself as meaningless.

It certainly can be. It's all subjective. It depends how you react to that belief.

And, in fact, to think of oneself as overly meaningful or too important, I would argue, is more likely to be harmful.

Nor is it harmless to think of oneself as meaningful.

It certainly can be. It's all subjective. It depends how you react to that belief.

Our own sense of meaning defines who we are, and affects how we impact the world. Imagine that someone, somewhere out there is meant to make a huge difference in the world by doing something incredible.

If he believes he is meant to that will effect his behaviour whether there's really any objective meaning or not. Hence why objective meaning is........... COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT!!!

But they don't believe in any true meaning.

We're discussing objective meaning, not belief in objective meaning, right?

I'm perfectly willing to accept you BELIEVE in objective meaning and that that belief can influence your life......... but that's COMPLETELY DIFFERENT to actually having objective meaning. Merely believing can just be a placebo. Which is my entire point about subjective meaning being able to be meaningful - it works like a placebo.


FOR FUCKS SAKE. I'll just draw the analogy with humour again: Something is funny merely because you believe it is. It's merely the placebo effect. Is that meaningless? Well objectively it is but who gives a shit? It may be meaningless but it's not useless.... humour can be used to bring a lot of pleasure to our lives.

They wont seek their own self-meaning and may miss the chance to make the impact they were supposed to. Sure, they may stumble across it by accident; but will they then be prepared for what they are meant to do?

Once again......... that is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT to whether objective meaning actually exists. People will seek self-meaning just as much if they wrongfully believe in objective meaning as if they rightfully believe in objective meaning.