Episode VII (spoilers)

[Anomalocaris]

.... i don't know about that...

I will say it is up there with Empire strikes back.

That movie gutted original movie goers, and left you standing there with a 3 year cliff hanger.. Keep in mind that cliffhangers were NOT done back then! everything was tied up in one or two episodes. movies even trilogies did not leave you just hanging. Not to mention their was Always a clean liine between good and bad guys.. Now the main good guy's Dad was the main Bad guy! that was a big deal in of itself because it was strongly believed that the apple never fell far from the tree.

Could you imagine what would happen if you watched rocky 2 and did not find out who won the fight to the end of rocky 3 years later? or if you never witnessed all of these plot devises before and bam get hit with two or three mind benders all at once with no resolution for 3 years?

This movie maybe what empire was to all you ... young punky brewsters but to the one who has towed the line from the start it is just apart of the reason we love this saga so much

Perhaps. I didn't exactly grow up on the OT, my childhood was mostly dominated by the prequels (which I now recognise as irredeemable shite from beginning to end). I always hear 'ah it'll never be as good as the originals'. I don't subscribe to that mindset in the slightest, personally. I enjoyed TFA more than any of the others, so it certainly made me happy

Since new hope and empire were the only two movie in the entire franchise that was any good at all, I have no problem calling this movie a strong runner up in the competition to be a distant third with Jedi.

And the main thing that prevents it from sinking further is Daisy Ridley is a pretty good actress and the way the Rey character was set up promised considerable depth had considerable potential before Mary Sueness took over.