RE: My heart is breaking... I thought Christians are suppose to love "uncondition...
January 5, 2016 at 2:20 pm
(January 5, 2016 at 2:04 pm)*Deidre* Wrote:(January 5, 2016 at 1:55 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: John 15:5-6 "I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing. If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away as a branch and dries up; and they gather them, and cast them into the fire and they are burned.
Aside from the overused and much debated John 3:16, with it's "no man cometh to the Father except through Me", how do you explain the blue passage above? Jesus talked a whole lot about hell, and weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth - for whoever did not obey/follow him.
I take that to mean that God (if god exists, which I'm betting he doesn't) is going to fry me forever for saying that Jesus was an asshole about a lot of things, and wasn't "godlike" at all. That doesn't sound very loving to me.
I'm not really a Bible scholar, so there are passages that to me, don't fit with Jesus as a loving man who seemed peaceful and not forceful at all in how he approached people. Let me ask you though...why do you have any opinion of Jesus, if you don't believe he existed? When I left Christianity, and eventually identified as an atheist, I was indifferent to the idea of Jesus. I thought maybe he existed at some point in history, but didn't think he was an asshole, etc. Or are you just saying how he is characterized in the Bible, you feel he is depicted as an asshole? Just wondering ....because many Christians believe that atheists 'hate' God, etc...and my thought to that is why would anyone hate something he/she doesn't believe? It's more on an indifference for most atheists, as I once felt anyways.
I was raised Pentecostal. I had to quote newly-memorized Bible verses before dinner every night. So people make a reference, they sometimes pop into my head. When friends describe Jesus as nothing but lovey-dovey, I sometimes question that viewpoint. Personally, I couldn't care less what he said or didn't say - - unless someone starts throwing verses back at me and insisting that I believe or else.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein