RE: Atheists who have converted to theism?
January 6, 2016 at 2:11 am
(This post was last modified: January 6, 2016 at 2:24 am by robvalue.)
(January 6, 2016 at 12:50 am)Mr.wizard Wrote: I am so lost, how can someone think their morality requires a god while simultaneously not believing in god?
It sounds like MK is stuck on the idea that morality has to be handed down from an authority and can't just be the result of our own thoughts and empathy.
Of course assuming there is objective morality is going to lead to failure, because it's a nonsensical concept. Hiding the problem behind an invisible figure just stops it being immediately obvious that it's a flawed idea, and because God is hidden and mysterious we don't notice it's just his opinion anyway.
I never understand the desire to seek out the most powerful thing available and just do whatever it wants. If we jettison any way we have to judge what is and isn't actually helpful or harmful to human and animals, then we become amoral and don't know what effect following this dictator is actually having. This is flatly contradicted by the way people making such claims then give alternative explanations as to why these objective judgements are "good". If there are sufficient reasons, it matters not who says it.
Morality is simple, in its basic form.
Question 1: Do you want other people to be happy and healthy?
If yes: Go to question 2
If no: You are a psycopath. If religion makes you act as if you did care about others, then by all means carry on.
Question 2: Do you have a good idea what harms people and what helps them?
If yes: Great! Do things that help and don't do things that harm.
If no: Think about what helps and harms you. If you don't even know what helps or harms you, seek professional help.
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