(January 6, 2016 at 10:01 am)pool Wrote: Meh, As far as I can tell people provided very good reasons for why the movie was shitty. I have yet to see very good reasons let alone reasons for why the movie is supposedly so great.
My reasons include:
I enjoyed the story.
I enjoyed the callbacks to earlier movies.
I enjoyed the humor.
I enjoyed most of the characters.
I just enjoyed watching it.
I don't expect you, or anyone else, to think that these are "very good reasons" for thinking this movie is "supposedly so great" these are just some of the reasons I enjoyed it.
What you might be calling "very good reasons" for why the movie was so bad are things I might personally either not agree with, not care about, and/or things that didn't hamper my enjoyment of the film. For instance, there's been some slamming of the cinematography. I didn't notice anything wrong with it and it didn't hamper my enjoyment of the movie so I put this in the category of "don't care." There has been talk (here or elsewhere) about the overly on-the-nose use of classic themes in the score (playing Vader's theme over the reveal of his melted helmet) but I enjoyed it in a nostalgic way. There has been critiques that the movie was just a rehashing of epIV and I whole-heartedly agree - but that didn't hamper my enjoyment of the movie even though for some people it did.
We're talking about art, here. People have subjective experiences of art. It moves some people and doesn't move others and there's no right or wrong answer to whether something is "good art" in the sense of everyone having the exact same opinion of it.
I can't stand a lot of the big Hollywood summer blockbuster movies, for instance (I think they're stupid premises with thin plots and cater to the widest possibly audience simply so studios can make money), but millions of people love them.
My sister did a painting once that was a gestural paint stroke (a single stroke of black paint on a white canvas). I looked at it and thought it was interesting and had good visual balance but wasn't especially emotionally moved by it or anything. My mom looked at it and loved it because her daughter made it. My grandpa looked at it and asked "That's art?"
I've gotten in long, drawn out and rather heated discussion with people (online and IRL) about the Twilight books and movies and how much I hate them and I needle the people I talk to who like them - but it's their prerogative to like them even though I think they're a steaming donkey turd heaped on a pile of elephant shit.
People experience art differently and movies are art. Some people with like The Force Awakens and others won't. Some will take issue with inconsistencies with the SW universe and others won't. Some will be able to look past any technical issues, or story problems or cinematic flubs and some will get hung up on them.
So what?
It's art.
Get over it.
Teenaged X-Files obsession + Bermuda Triangle episode + Self-led school research project = Atheist.