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Scientific knowledge versus spiritual knowledge
RE: Scientific knowledge versus spiritual knowledge
(January 7, 2016 at 12:23 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Mystic,

I'm sorry, but this reply is a perfect example of what I was talking about in my OP.  Telling me to (paraphrasing) "listen with my heart, in order to realize the truth of what God has to say," doesn't really mean anything, let alone convince me of anything.  

Also, please remember, there is a difference between not believing in something and not WANTING to believe in something.  This is a common misconception of atheists by theists.  As far as proofs, evidence, and arguments for God, I haven't heard one yet that was even remotely convincing...

I know it won't convince you. It wasn't meant to convince you. It was clarifying my stance on this issue.

I hear the same thing from Sunnis, there is no convincing proof of the authority of the family of Mohammad in Quran or mutuwatir (numerously transmitted of the same hadith) hadiths, while I see proofs in both clearly. 

My personal experience is that often we convince ourselves the proof is not convincing even when it should.

That said, it's not just Atheists, I find this true of humans generally. And it's not their nature in my view, it's something dark and sinister convincing them to be like this, while it's against their benefit.
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RE: Scientific knowledge versus spiritual knowledge - by MysticKnight - January 7, 2016 at 12:40 pm

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