(January 7, 2016 at 10:07 am)yukapuka Wrote:Until this i was willing to listen and have some respect for what you have to say, but this is above all else a discussion forum, and you had very respectful and well thought out critisms thrown against you. I want to see them addressed.
To all the people who commented regarding questions about the Quran and history etc i will not be addressing them here at the moment, we can open a separate topic and discuss them there or perhaps after i finish writing the complete set of history then i will address them
Okay back to our history lesson
Hopefully you can look at this subjectively and honestly as a person living in a very difficult time and seeing what that person was able to produce by his ideas and his vision , something that not one of us will be able to mimic even a tenth of, long after we are dead, Islam will continue , Quran will continue, his name will continue etc and despite not being with the people of today
The only problem is what you have heard is not entirely true, and you need to see what really happened and why he was such a successful and influential and superb unique individual
Again back to the beginnings
Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) dealt with one of the most difficult and arrogant and immoral evil people of his time and he even managed to completely change them , it might be hard to believe this but they were even worse then ISIS because even ISIS dont kill their own daughters just because they are born female
People need to realize that 1400 years ago, there was no internet, no mobile phones, there was no electricity, no hospitals, no knowledge of any kind of medicine or knowledge about something simple like the flu , no security, no government, no law, no certainty of any kind and for the Arabs, life was even worse then the usual medieval European, there was no water either it was very scarce, there was no food it was very scarce , there was a period of life of the Prophet where he would go for up to a month without food just one date at a time every few days, and this would last for almost a year and sometimes even longer , what he ate was absolutely minimal to say the least, he lived in absolute poverty
Tomorrow for the Arab was a long way away , today for the arab was very dangerous , all kinds of things could kill you and perhaps many of them did not look forward to life in the harsh desert and lifestyle that they were brought up in but couldnt do anything about, during the day he was at risk , during the night eh was at risk, at any moment any can kill you to steal what little you have or what they thought you might have had , food was really scarce
People didnt have time or concerns with things like knowledge or what was going on contemporary in other parts of the world or things like science, all they knew was maybe within a 1 km radius of their surroundings and it was all to do with food , water and survival and war
People had SERIOUS problems , no certainty of any kind, once the sun went down all kinds of fears came over the people, fears of mythical stories , fears of night robbers(as you know the famous Aladdin and the 40 thieves story captures the reality of life as an Arab at night ) people grouped up in "tribes" and went to conquer each other for basics thing , and because of that there was no law, there was no governance, there was no knowledge to interest in knowledge or reading or writing or books
When your life is in danger every second, you dont have time or concerns to learn or know or create or organise anything, you cant get together with people and make a change especially when the people are stone cold killers who can easily kill their own daughters , they wont have a problem killing somebody they seen as a threat or competitor
This was the surrounding that Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) was in and this was something which to anyone else might have seemed next to impossible to change , especially from somebody who hated violence, who also was looked down upon for having a daughter(his daughter Fatimah(PBUH) was his first surviving child whom he of course kept and loved very deeply
they used to make fun of him for having a daughter saying that he was cursed, and on top of the fact that he didnt participate in battles even those concerning his own tribe, people looked at him as not a strong male capable of surviving their strong and highly demanding lifestyles
Furthermore he challenged the status quo, he demanded equality for the female and male, he demanded that all slaves be freed and that they are free men, he demanded that arab and non arab and blacks and whites are equal before God , he demanded that everyone stop worshipping the hundreds of gods (which were made out of things like dates which were later eaten) and criticised this concept of Arabs eating their gods when they got hungry and desperate
He demanded the 360 god statues in teh Ka'ba be removed and everyone unites to worship one God , he told the aristocrats(which mainly made their money from selling these hundred of gods to these arabs who were afraid the harsh environment around them looking for any hope to save them hence falling for the aristocratic tricks and buying these false gods in turn making the aristocrats rich and themselves extremely poor) he demanded the rich help the poor, he was preaching against their traditions of killing the daughters and mistreating the female in general
but as you can imagine the macho Arab man, rejected all of his propositions and they ridiculed him alot, they didnt see him as threat because he was everything they were not, he had a daughter child, he openly showed affection towards her which was something that shocked them that he was loving and caring while they were harsh and commanding to their children , they looked at him as an effeminate man
when he used to come, they looked down upon so much that they used to order their children to stone him and pelt him in order to humiliate him by having him beaten down by young children being a man himself
but of course despite that the general average arab rejected all of his ideas and his completely going against all their traditions and lifestyle changing and shaking the very foundations of everything they knew and took for granted his message did reach and fall upon the many ears of those who were greatly suffering in that environment
the poor, the slaves, the blacks, the females, all heard his message loud and clear and they loved the sound of his message, it related to them completely and resonated with them because they had never heard such talk before about the female being equal to the male, about the slave being free, about the arabs and non arabs and black equal before God
and his message was the first of all nations 1400 years ago, he was the first to call for equality for all men and women , something that was unheard of in general
unity of all men and women under one God , the rich not being better then the poor or the poor not being better then the rich, and that they are al equal, except in high morals was what distinguished them from one another , the one who was better was the one who treated the other better , that was the only ones who were considered better then the other according to him and his teachings
he emanated manners, again something the Arabs didnt know about, they would insult him and ridicule him and he would not insult back or ridicule back, he would return evil with love and compassion
when they would come to him cursing him and making fun of him, he would try his best to help them , he returned all evil with kindness (kill them with kindness) as the old saying goes
however that didnt stop the arab from plotting and planning against him, they obviously began to notice that he was getting the ears of the slaves and women and non arabs , he started to change their minds and they were starting to believe that they were not scrap but individuals with human rights, and they started to demand these rights
of course and they were met with death, torture, and great opposition, Muhammad(PBUH) also , he was threatened to be killed, he was attacked many times, he was humiliated many times, he was attacked and eventually they exiled him
but all of this did not stop him or his message, he stood in their faces without fear of death or fear of what they would do to him , he trusted in all that God promised him and told him through Gabriel(the angel) and he persisted against great threat and opposition, and truly it was a miracle that he survived as he did despite all the opposition that was against him
he was never viewed as a threat, he wasnt a strong brawny macho rude loud obnoxious guy like the usual arab, he was the silent soft spoken opposite to them who loved his daughter and respected all people male or female , slave or free man
at first they ridiculed him but then it turned into a very serious threat with many attempts on his life because his message was reaching the ears of all the oppressed and captivated by these ridiculous standards that were normal in their society, but God saved him every time as his mission was promised by God to be a success
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.