(January 8, 2016 at 9:31 am)Whateverist the White Wrote: No you're not judgmental, MK. Your reasoning sometimes seems clouded to me in the way you allude to when describing your difficulty in giving other belief systems a fair shake. But you've never struck me as being anything but respectful toward others.
Thank you for your kind words. And other forums and on my specific own faith forum, I always go out of my way to emphasize not all Atheists are destined to hell or are dishonest to themselves. I go out of my way to show Shias for example, they can still be believers in whatever guidance of God has come to them and be submitting to whatever they know to be true of their nature.
I make statements of possibilities of being dishonest here, because I feel if that is the case, people should combat that. But contrary to what people might think and always assume, I never assume any specific individual has been dishonest about the issue to themselves.
I think Atheists are more honest then most religious people in general.
Even though I may sometimes emphasize on human condition, that we don't accept proofs and what not, I think Atheists are more intellectually honest to themselves then most religious people.
That said I've made it clear that I do believe Atheists can make it to heaven and I've clarified the stance of Quran on musta'afeen (those who the proof of God and his religion has not come to them so as to have power to have faith in it or disbelieve in it).
I personally believe most Atheists are musta'afeen as in the case of people of most religions. If there was one people who I don't think are excused it's Sunni scholars who are aware of proofs of Ahlulbayt but reject them. That is to say nothing of the Sunni masses though.
