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Why people are religious
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RE: Why people are religious
Well, it was verse 17:59. I thought it said no miracles were sent to Mohammad because ancient people reject past miracles of their Prophets. Then I realized a more logical interpretation which was more consistent with other verses of Quran and hadiths (other then about the specific verse, but about miracles in general), is that it meant since the first people who came to Mohammad with the personal demands of miracles (ie. do this and that or we won't believe you) were meant but they rejected anyways. God would of kept giving into their demands were it not that they already rejected miracles and were just making more and more demands out of their desires. So God reserved the right to not send the miracles as mentioned above as they demanded, but would do miracles on his own terms like the moon splitting miracle and other miracles.

I think the translation of "awaloon" to "ancient people" "former people" is deceptive in that it can be interpreted as first ones and be referring to the first ones who made such demands from the people of Mohammad in which people became aware that Mohammad performed miracles they demanded.

And if we read nahjul balagha, we see the first miracle they demanded was that a tree was made to move from it's place, then split in half, and walk away from each other and return to each other in one piece.

They rejected that miracle and said it was magic, and he was a sorcerer.

That was the most pressing issue. Because before it looked like an excuse as to why Mohammad [saw] didn't have miracles at all, which was an illogical one.
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Why people are religious - by jcvamp - January 6, 2016 at 11:15 am
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