Scientific knowledge versus spiritual knowledge
January 8, 2016 at 11:08 am
(This post was last modified: January 8, 2016 at 11:17 am by LadyForCamus.)
(January 8, 2016 at 10:45 am)ChadWooters Wrote: Mr. Hanky, with all due respect and not trying to be insulting, you really must choose your words more carefully to better express your thoughts. It would also help if you attend to why others choose to use the words they use, not only in their everyday conventional definitions but also as they are used in particular fields. ‘Nature’ has different connotations depending, for example, on whether someone is talking about biology or physics or philosophy. That is the meaning of a ‘term of art’. It’s not as you suppose a specific reference to aesthetics when you said:
(January 7, 2016 at 5:18 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: I believe that you believe it's art, but when you challenge a scientific idea, art need not apply.
Next,
(January 7, 2016 at 5:18 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: If you dispute that nature and reality are different, then instead of going apeshit with insults when we disagree you should 1. Not do anything until you've taken another hard look at your position, considering why you believe it's correct and 2. If you still hold the same position after Step 1, then give us a reason why anyone, including the skeptics (not the few special snowflakes who are so enlightened above us because they had an "experience") should believe it too.
Ummm, yeah. I only made one insult in passing. I called Camus Lady stupid after she took disproportionate offense to the previous comments of theists and told them to leave AF. I stand by it. Her getting “all riled up” is her problem. My comments have been quite restrained. There is nothing personal about the idea that some ‘notions’ are inane. Ignorance is simply a lack of knowledge. There is no condensation in telling someone that they are ignorant of certain facts. Everyone is ignorant of something. That’s different from stupid.
The fair minded people on AF know that I have thought extensively about these problems and provide relatively comprehensive and carefully crafted posts. That doesn’t mean I must reach the same conclusions as you or any other
Chad, if you had continued reading you would have seen my post where I clarified I did NOT mean all theists should leave AF; only the nasty trolls who come here to insult and nothing more. So let's not get hung up on that.
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Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.