(January 9, 2016 at 1:20 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:(January 9, 2016 at 1:12 pm)Rhythm Wrote: -and again, Mystic, whether or not you assume a creator, for any purpose...and whether or not there is a creator - of any kind..is irrelevant as to why you have failed to convince. But lets talk about that endlessly, at least we won't have to discuss those criticisms of our "argument" that we do not wish to acknowledge.
That was her objection though, to her it is relevant, she is saying I'm taking for granted God exists for the argument to work. So I'm trying to get her past that. So that we can discuss other parts of the argument.
No mystic,
What I cannot get past is this absurd notion that morality cannot exist with out a god. The fact that your whole "argument," which is set up to "prove" this idea, falls completely out of the realm of common sense only compounds the issue.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.