(January 9, 2016 at 8:04 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:(January 9, 2016 at 2:10 am)yukapuka Wrote:That's a great way to sell a delusion. Remember, most of the Arabs were illiterate. Surah 3:75. According to the fairy tale Mohammed initially spent most of his time with a small ignorant cult. None of them wrote down anything. Besides, it's highly doubtful that there were a lot of stationery stores in the desert when they could get paper and ink supplies.
your completely wrong and talking out of your rear end and in ignorance
the most HEAVILY documented period was DURING the life of the Prophet , because HE instructed them and there was constantly scribed going around witht he Prophet writing and watching and listening to everything the Prophet did
it wasnt just that, but when he would even do things like get ablution(muslims ceremony with water prior to prayer) people would fight over the water that would fall from his face and hands
not just that, but people would collect the hair when he would trim and have a hair cut, which you can find today in museums, which only goes to show how much peole wanted everything from him , his clothes also we still have it, his personal items also
so it is no surprise that they also wrote down everything he said and did
people would spend the night at his house just so that they can document what he does at night, how he spends his time etc , and they documented his many prayers which he would spend his nights worshipping and his days fasting
The fact is that the hadiths were written centuries after Mohammed supposedly bit the dust. Most of them are cultural rules of the dominant Arab tribes in Arabia. The writers just added a couple of magic words to get the dummies to accept them.
wow it really is amazing how you guys can make some argument but have never heard of backing these argument up , and this really demonstrates just how much you talk out of absolute nonsense
you have less than zero knowledge on the subject and you are just assuming and "supposing"
if you had bothered to read what i wrote earlier, which obviously you didnt which shows something about your character , you would have noticed that teh first revelation to the Prophet(PBUH) was "Read" and also "God taught by the pen that which man knew not"
SO you see the followers of Prophet Muhamamd(PBUH) and also the Prophet himself, followed those verses of revelation and instruction , they were nto just said for no reason, but an instruction, i.e make your people literate and teach them to right by the pen
that was the FIRST revelation , and there is MANY historical accounts from historians who have through their studies confirmed this fact that Muhammad(PBUH) of the many things he did, one of them was teach his nation to read and write by instruction of him
another thing which clearly shows your ignorance, is that you have just NO idea how thorough and elaborate the arabs got busy during he life of the Prophet to do with reading and writing about himself and also about other people in that time
and if you think that the Arabs couldn't read and write, then how was the Quran long before the Prophet died? but not just that, there is thousands of hadiths about the Prophet THOUSANDS , detailing so much
there is also not just writings but even his beard hair that was preserved by the people, on more then one occasion
real genuine historians , would not agree with this view you have and you are absolutely wrong on this subject , totally ignorant and insist on something that it isnt true to feed some fantasy you have of how you want to perceive history