(January 11, 2016 at 5:05 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:(January 11, 2016 at 4:00 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: It's not just that God values life, and that is why life is sacred. It's that that is how we were made. It is the very nature of our being, and inherent to who/what we are. Like I said in my first post, in the same way that wetness is inherent to water, value is inherent to life. You can't separate the two.
Now you're getting confused. There is a difference between life being inherently valuable and value being an inherit property of life. I believe the latter but not the former. Values arises along with life because life brings with it a necessary project or goal, that being survival. The survival of a living thing can only present itself to a thinking being, because without an agent intending a particular goal, the value of a thing is not fixed by its natural properties. Value requires agency. Simply pointing out that where agency occurs, so does value, doesn't get you to the goal of life being inherently valuable. That two phenomena co-occur isn't any kind of evidence that the one is an objective fact about the other.
I'm not confused. I honestly believe value is inherent to life.
Yes, I believe God values life, but it is because of this that He created life as being sacred. So the fact that God values life and that life is inherently valuable can be one and the same here.
I get that you guys don't believe that, but that's my personal answer to the OP.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
