(January 13, 2016 at 5:04 am)yukapuka Wrote: this whole conversation is like somebody saying "what is physics" having never studied its laws and rules
or even better analogy is the story which comes from buddha about them men in the dark room that touched different parts of an elephent having never seen a elephant and feeling different parts of the elephant and then later describing it differently amongst themselves not realizing that they were all wrong and had only touched a part of the elephant
none of you actually know anything about Islam , what do you expect that information to come from? Islam is studied for decades by the faqih(jursit) before it he can use it in jurisprudence just like any other law system in the world
nobody just goes "oh i know the whole law of the country" and hence is able to deduce what is true and false regarding it
you keep saying "we dont know what Islam is about" and that is because you actually DON'T know what Islam is about
i dont now how many time is need to repeat this before the penny drops for one of you
and the worst things is you keep asking one another as if this group of people here are the only ones left in the world and think they know everything about it , it really is like the analogy Jesus gave "blind leading the blind"
your problem isnt wit Islam, as i said before it is with your ignorance
Imam Ali said once famously
"Our enemies are not the Jews or the Christians, our enemy is ignorance"
and this applies to you right here right now except the part of Jews and Christians is replaced with [insert here your current concluded enemy]
No. It's not "what is physics". You can't fool me because I'm an Arab, so I understand the language

ISIS is Saudi Arabia 100 years ago; period. They even execute people using the same method : chopping the head, both stone women to death. And both love to take slaves. Also, both are having the same flag (with slight differences like the background color).
Read the history of Wahhabism, and there you go : you unlocked ISIS.
And we all know that ISIS is backing everything it does with very strong Sunni/Wahhabi teachings, usually based on the same Hadiths that Muslims used in the past to bully and slaughter other people.
I assume you're familiar with the amounts of insulting Hadiths that order Muslims to butcher, rape, enslave & torture whom they don't like. ISIS is a very possible (and probable) outcome resulting from the Sunni faith.
Shia aren't any better; actually they also have their own "ISIS". We saw what the militias of Iran did in Iraq.
To sum it up, the Muslim sects (Sunna, Shia) are the reason why we have ISIS.
I know it's controlled and probably fabricated by the CIA (just like in Afghanistan), but if Muslim sects didn't exist, ISIS wouldn't have existed.
The Sunni fire that the Ummayads started, just turned around to bite us in sensitive areas.


