(January 14, 2016 at 12:58 pm)Vic Wrote:(January 14, 2016 at 12:53 pm)Bella Morte Wrote:
I really, really, really, REALLY hate the guilt by association fallacy. It's not an argument, it's a red herring at best.
Bullshit, first off the Allies put the heavy restrictions on Germany, NOT AN OUTRIGHT BAN, but heavy gun regulations on Germany after WW1. Hitler relaxed gun laws and expanded them to party and German loyalists. And it wasn't like Stalin and Hitler liked each other in any case.
So if gun huggers fear the left so much, remember there is no political party oath in the 2nd Amendment to own one, so if you are for gun rights then you also have to defend democrats rights to own them as well. So if liberal gun owners who voted for Obama and will Vote for either Hillary or Bernie then the only way to stop liberals is to do what Hitler did and demand a party nationalist oath as a litmus test for ownership.
Oh and you idiots don't understand that government even in Washington's time used the "militia" to preserve the union against moron anti taxers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Rebellion
http://www.mcall.com/opinion/ithink/mc-o...story.html
Sorry guys, but on top of laws with just about every other product changing with changing technology, it is flat out absurd to think the founders intended no rules at all. They used the militia to preserve the country, not so John Wayne and Dirty Harry morons could falsely play victim.
I am sick of the paranoid crap from gun worshipers that if we vote to change laws that we will become a fascist state. GROW UP!