RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua?
January 21, 2016 at 5:46 pm
(This post was last modified: January 21, 2016 at 5:51 pm by Brian37.)
(January 21, 2016 at 4:57 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote:(January 21, 2016 at 10:59 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: My conclusion about Thor -that he doesn't exist- is coming from the bold red underlines that I put under Norse mythology. The story of creation and the story of the Norse idols -just like Greek mythology- are just full of gaps & contradictions.The latter brother.
Yes, others may claim that their idols the the real deal, but it all comes down to what the deity had to present. If the religion is contradicting to itself from the inside, then that's how we know it's false.
In order for science to be accurate, it must be materialistic to the core. Science discuss the method of creation; faith and belief just make your head hardwired like that : and actually, it can't be disproved unless somebody travel back in time, and see how the universe began.
For your question : I can't trust the origin of the thought either -existence of God-. Did humanity create it, or was it a reality, that got twisted in many places to produce hundreds of different religions ?
Be giving and selfless in all you do with mercy and humility. Be strong in what you know on an innermost level through the selfless conscience. The weighty things placed on your heart that motivate/shame/ teach you through honest introspection and selfless direction by the will of GOD are placed there by the Holy Spirit for the sake of all, and resides dormant/ asleep in most.
God formed everything. All is of IT to some degree. Core scriptures; Qur'an, Torah, New Covenant, Bhagavad Gita, Book of Enoch, the writings of the church fathers, (look towards the Druze, who suffer now, in this day), the writings of the Bahia Faith.
There is a creative force that made the actual observable laws that all of physical existence and spiritual adheres to without waver by God's will. We are the ones being tested, for our sake and the sake of existence. The hell that we exhibit here on earth will end as sin is ended. Most will tell you it will be horrid and violent.
I say, by God's will and mercy, and our full Faith in our direction of God, we can end greed(sin)as a whole and look to universal prosperity that can't even fully be contemplated at this time.
One Creator GOD is obvious and evident to any who truly look with their heart and soul. As is the very direction of life.
Once people actually start to realize the peaceful unity that is possible through the simple, unadulterated core scriptures of the faithful unto GOD, then we might be able to see the potential through the direction of all given by GOD.
People may say peace can be achieved on a personal level without God. This in itself is greed as it exudes no desire to want to benefit existence as a whole, and rather focus on an individual bubble. It is faulty in doing such. What worth is one momentary life, if not to the benefit and help the advancement of peaceable life as a whole for all, equally and exponentially in comparison to ones own selfish gratifications.
Thanks is to GOD with humility and praise.
Faith in selfless Unity for Good.
QUOTE YOU "There is a creative force that made the actual observable laws that all of physical existance".
Yes, the big bang, and atoms are what make up all the material in the universe.
You are stuck on pretty. All religions look at the pretty in nature and use that to justify their book and their religion being the one correct religion. So what. Jews and Muslims and Christians and Hindus all have their creation myths.
There are also very destructive forces in nature and the universe. There are bacteria and viruses that can kill the healthiest human. Bacteria and viruses are far more efficient in replicating and out number humans worldwide in the trillions if not more. Modern medicine is made it possible to manage disease better.
Earthquakes are destructive to humans in it's range. Volcanos are destructive to humans in its range. Hurricanes are destructive to humans in it's path. Tornados are destructive to humans in it's path. Scientific method has made better building codes better, and weather forecasts help us get out of the way of those destructive forces.
The planet is 4 billion years old. It started out as a burning molten ball, then at one time it was a frozen snowball, then it fluctuated until it settled down to the point life could take off. But even then it was still being hit by meteors . Meteors have been hitting the planet year in and year out for 4 billion years. Most burn up, but a few have caused damage like this one, the most famous.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicxulub_crater Which killed the dinosaurs.
And every inch of the entire planet's 4 billion years has been struck by lightening at some point.
The planet in life history has had 5 MASS EXTINCTIONS, not just the dinosaurs, but 99% of life that has existed is now extinct. The seeming "abundance" of life you are observing now is only the 1% still around.
50 million humans die worldwide every year from everything in every nation. Babies, young to old, from disease, famine, natural disaster, accident, crime and war. That is half a billion in 10 years and 1 billion in 20 years.
And a black hole is destructive, and when our sun dies, our planet will be fried like coal. And if you think everything in life and the universe is pretty, take a rocket ride up in orbit, take a space walk, and take your helmet off. You will find out how "pretty" reality is.
WE are not a product of a factory owner and made like an object in a factory. You cannot seriously have me believe such a perfect being and all powerful being would need to go through all the stuff I mentioned above and waste most of that 4 billion years to put humans on this rock. We have only been around in our current form 200,000 years and we only got to the first organized writing anything 10,000 years ago. And humans have been fighting over those writings even up to today.
We are merely riding in a giant non cognitive weather pattern, no magic puppeteer needed, no cosmic magical factory boss needed to explain reality. It was understandable back then when people gap filled without our modern scientific method. But we know better now. Humans like the idea of a sky hero. But all they are doing is gap filling with their own insecurities and desires and narcissism. They are merely projecting human qualities on non existent things. The word for that is "anthropomorphism".