(January 10, 2016 at 4:58 pm)wallym Wrote: I think the language we use when talking about value muddies up the waters, allowing for 'objective value' talks to slide in as a thing. And I think it's because of the way we talk about subjective value as an abstract idea when the reality is it's no such thing.
What is subjective value really?
It is a tangible biological process of evaluating the desires of an individual in a moment. Really, it is only subjective in the sense that the scope only applies to one person in that moment. But really, it is a fact. A measurable truth, no different than eye color or gravity. Person A at moment B values C.
So what is objective value. Where does that exist? How does it not contradict the truth that is the individuals tangible values?
If I have blue eyes, Bob has green eyes, and Tim has yellow eyes. The idea of a universal eye color is nonsense. By describing things as tangible instead of opinions, it leaves no room for an overarching objective value to exist.
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Am I missing anything here?
An objective value is true based on objective reality, e.g.
2+2=4<>5.
A subjective value is based on subjective reality, such as a preference for the color blue over red. It cannot stand in correctly for a value of objective reality, because it is of a subjective, not an objective nature.
Therefore, nobody's preferred moral values are "objective moral values", and no objective moral values exist - there are only the subjective moral values which we share.
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