(January 23, 2016 at 5:18 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: wallym, if I may ask, what exactly is your purpose here? To explore which values are worthwhile to hold or to have a pedantic argument about the nature of values?It matters whether you label a value "subjective" when you make statements about goodness that you intend others to accept as objectively true. It is one thing for a person to have an opinion about the world, in which disagreement is understood as only a matter of perspective or taste and thus, tolerated; it is another thing to make a claim to knowledge, in which it is assumed that rational argument can ameliorate contentious or contradictory views. To say that values are subjective, hence, that's that, or simply that it makes no difference, doesn't allow for any meaningful or rational investigation into the ethics of actions and intentions to be had.
To promote reason and rational thinking, compassion and skepticism - these are good values to have. What does it matter if we label them as subjective or as objective? It doesn't. They have reliably good results wherever they are promoted and applied and that's all that matters.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza