(February 17, 2011 at 5:22 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote:(February 17, 2011 at 4:46 pm)Godschild Wrote: Jesus is the supreme judge of man and is never wrong and is a loving God. To let someone go to a firey place and suffer for eternity would be torture and God is not a torturer. Hell is a place of darkness, if it were full of fire it would not be dark. I do not know of anything worse than burning forever and I doubt you would disagree. So God chose this discription of hell because the mind of man can not concieve of the idea of eternal seperation from God and His love, the loneliness, the darkness of the soul and anything else that would be associated with this seperation. So you see I'm in full agreement with Christ when it comes to heaven and hell, it's your choice as to where you want to spend your eternal life as for me being with Christ and enjoying an eternal relationship with Him is exacyly what I've chosen.
Jesus is quoted saying "Hell FIRE"
Matthew 25:41 (Jesus speaking to people at final judgment), ...Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.
Revelation 20:12, 15, And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life...And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Mat 18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.
Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
Mark 9:45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
Mark 9:47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, PREPARED FOR THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS. (Matthew 25:41)
the devil...shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. (Revelation 20:10)
So..Jesus himself is quoted MANY times saying hell is a lake of fire that burns forever and he is going to throw people into it.
Did you even READ your bible?
You are hopeless.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
