(February 17, 2011 at 4:20 pm)Godschild Wrote:(February 17, 2011 at 12:45 pm)Minimalist Wrote:Quote:Jesus was born in June of 2BC, in that month of that year Jupiter "the king planet" and Venus "the mother planet" came into alignment and formed the brightest star ie. light in the heavens that has ever been seen.
G-C you are such an infant sometimes. You'll believe anything that anyone tells you as long as it tries to sustain your fairy tale belief system.
Matthew 2 1-12 contains BOTH of these lines:
"We saw his star in the east and have come to worship him.”
(For "wise" men this is odd because if they...living in Babylon/Persia saw a star "in the east" and followed it they would have ended up in China....not Judaea.)
But even worse is this line....which xtian morons avoid like the plague because it is clear that the idiots who wrote this crap did not know what a "star" was.
" After they had heard the king, they went on their way, and the star they had seen in the east went ahead of them until it stopped over the place where the child was. "
Just silly shit written by primitive assholes.
Guess you need to study some more about the movement of planets and stars, they are always stopped, it is the earth that moves and with a thing called retrograde motion, planets do appear to stop and even go backwards.
True....and the astronomers of the time knew of this. It still does not explain why you should believe this "star" is now a Planet. Or is it just MORE reinvention by xtian apologists in response to those pestky scientists undoing all their hard won propeganda?
(February 17, 2011 at 4:20 pm)Godschild Wrote: You are correct about the magi coming from Babylon and they did see His star in the east, Min all stars rise in the east and set in the west and following the star it would have lead them west (seems these guys are wiser than you dude) because Jerusalem is west of Babylon.The star which was actually Jupiter "the king planet" was setting in the west over Jerusalem ever night of there journey as observed from the direction of Babylon and did stop over Bethleham on Dec. 25 of 2BC when one observed it from Jerusalem, it's that retrograde motion thing I mentioned earlier. Yes the day we celebrate in the giving of gifts and the birth of Christ. Now when you stop laughing call NASA and ask them to run the Starry Night program they use, giving the dates of June the 17th of 2BC til Dec. 25 of 2BC as viewed from Babylon and let them tell you what Jupiter does during those nights and then just swallow it, bet it will taste bitter to you.
As I said GC ...pesky bloody scientists. On the same programme you will find that the pyramids of the Giza plateau were built in 10,500BCE (like WTF?) That would put ALL of the bible stories out by 6,000 years?? Hmmm Just my casual observation.
(February 17, 2011 at 4:20 pm)Godschild Wrote: PS if some unknown person had written Matthew in the 2nd century AD they would not have known this very precise info because star movement charts were not keep in those days and as I said before God the creator knows the movement of His creation and thus chose the perfect time for these events to take place.
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Why not??? Not all the records of pagandom were destroyed in Alexandria.
(February 17, 2011 at 11:22 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: See?? This is all I get and some nuce page that says Are You Ready??
I don't think that MG Selden is that great an authority on history as you would like GC.
AND he is making the assumption that your godboy actually lived.
You have the right page it's the top one you posted click on the first 2 links.
Yes written in 1998....apparently their is another updated version for 2010??
Actually this reminds me of those books by Maurice Cottrell regarding the pyramids of the Giza plateau and the Mayan prophicies...run -away best sellers for the 'New Age market' quite an interesting read.
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
