RE: The Immorality of God - Slavery in the Old Testament
January 25, 2016 at 5:20 am
(This post was last modified: January 25, 2016 at 5:28 am by robvalue.)
Those things weren't immoral yet. And it's not like God can just communicate with us again to update the rules, is it? 
I can't believe anyone is suggesting we are programmed with objective morality. We all disagree. I'd have thought that is plainly obvious. Sure, we generally agree about some things. But even then, we don't all agree. It's another obvious game of "Wow we all mainly sort of agree that some things are wrong! That's too amazing to have just happened so it's magic." It's not magic, it's not even surprising when you start to study evolution.
I'm not responding to or even reading what athrok says anymore, just so he doesn't waste time talking to me. He's welcome to reply anyhow of course.
This is all make believe. You have the liberty to construct whatever story you want to try and equate this fictional character in a book with another fictional character that you carry around in your head. The fact that this task appears to be impossible is rather telling. People may convince themselves through endless flawed analogies and goal-post shifting, but if they can't convince a single non-Christian of any of their points, even when we grant them full access to making stuff up, then surely that's worth stopping and thinking about. All atheists are dumb huh?
Seriously, make up whatever you want, my only criteria is that you keep your story straight. That seems too much to ask. But remember, from our point of view you are trying to argue that Sauron from lord of the rings is real. Instead of saying you're crazy and telling you to go away, we offer to have a conversation about it.
http://youtu.be/44ilZq3R900

I can't believe anyone is suggesting we are programmed with objective morality. We all disagree. I'd have thought that is plainly obvious. Sure, we generally agree about some things. But even then, we don't all agree. It's another obvious game of "Wow we all mainly sort of agree that some things are wrong! That's too amazing to have just happened so it's magic." It's not magic, it's not even surprising when you start to study evolution.
I'm not responding to or even reading what athrok says anymore, just so he doesn't waste time talking to me. He's welcome to reply anyhow of course.
This is all make believe. You have the liberty to construct whatever story you want to try and equate this fictional character in a book with another fictional character that you carry around in your head. The fact that this task appears to be impossible is rather telling. People may convince themselves through endless flawed analogies and goal-post shifting, but if they can't convince a single non-Christian of any of their points, even when we grant them full access to making stuff up, then surely that's worth stopping and thinking about. All atheists are dumb huh?
Seriously, make up whatever you want, my only criteria is that you keep your story straight. That seems too much to ask. But remember, from our point of view you are trying to argue that Sauron from lord of the rings is real. Instead of saying you're crazy and telling you to go away, we offer to have a conversation about it.
http://youtu.be/44ilZq3R900
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