So here's a quicky.
Could God achieve everything he wanted to in his plan, without slavery being made possible?
Same question for rape, violence, and so on.
If he could, then he's chosen to include these things because he wanted them there, and not for any other reason.
If he couldn't, then he has suspicious arbitrary context-sensitive restrictions depending on the argument at hand.
If good is meant to come out of bad somehow, then he could just make the exact same amount of good, with all the knowledge and strength that may be, without letting anyone enslave anyone ever.
Imagine an amazing wonderland where you can do anything you want, and have fun all day. Anything you can imagine, you can do. You just can't hurt anyone else. This would actually be a hell of a lot more free will than we currently have. For example, I'd be off roller skating through space eating endless pizzas and looking for clues in an amazing new interactive detective game I decided I wanted. Then I'd stop and chat with some friends, and maybe we'd play ultra-cards, a game perfectly designed for our group to fit in maximally with how we could enjoy a card game.
It would never cross our minds to hurt each other, ever. And we physically can't do it, even by accident.
Would you go live in that universe, or stay here?
Could God achieve everything he wanted to in his plan, without slavery being made possible?
Same question for rape, violence, and so on.
If he could, then he's chosen to include these things because he wanted them there, and not for any other reason.
If he couldn't, then he has suspicious arbitrary context-sensitive restrictions depending on the argument at hand.
If good is meant to come out of bad somehow, then he could just make the exact same amount of good, with all the knowledge and strength that may be, without letting anyone enslave anyone ever.
Imagine an amazing wonderland where you can do anything you want, and have fun all day. Anything you can imagine, you can do. You just can't hurt anyone else. This would actually be a hell of a lot more free will than we currently have. For example, I'd be off roller skating through space eating endless pizzas and looking for clues in an amazing new interactive detective game I decided I wanted. Then I'd stop and chat with some friends, and maybe we'd play ultra-cards, a game perfectly designed for our group to fit in maximally with how we could enjoy a card game.
It would never cross our minds to hurt each other, ever. And we physically can't do it, even by accident.
Would you go live in that universe, or stay here?
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