RE: Jesus was born, um, somewhere around this time
February 19, 2011 at 5:52 am
(This post was last modified: February 19, 2011 at 6:06 am by Godscreated.)
(February 18, 2011 at 7:36 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: And WHY didn't you find this piece of info??
http://sciastro.net/members/portia.php/2...-bethlehem
Much more reasonable in tone and much better presented...slack GC Slack...!!
Thanks for the site enjoyed the read and it says much the same as the material I found, the material I used was a Dvd "The Star Of Bethlehem" by Rick Larson. Larson in this Dvd carried the astronomy even farther, to Christ's death. The slack GC Slack must be in reference to my comments to Min. Min and I poke at each other quite often, on my part it's not that serious, mostly having fun to get a rise out of him. All in all Min is probably a good guy thats older like myself and can be cranky at times like me. If and I say if you are interested in the Dvd the fastest way I know to obtain it is at a christian book store, I believe that you would find it quite interesting since Larson carries it to Christ death. Want you to know that I'm not doing this to convert anyone, I'm presenting what I believe to be the truth and eveyone must determine for their self what they want to believe. Again thanks for the read and research to find it.
I also know that I'm a terrible writer,speller,user of correct wording and much more, lot better at verbal conversation, guess you'll just have to over look my bad writing at times.
(February 18, 2011 at 1:40 am)padraic Wrote:(February 18, 2011 at 1:21 am)AngelaRachnid Wrote::(February 16, 2011 at 11:50 pm)Godschild Wrote: Jesus was born in June of 2BC, in that month of that year Jupiter "the king planet" and Venus "the mother planet" came into alignment and formed the brightest star ie. light in the heavens that has ever been seen.
so how come no other cultures have recorded this astrological phenomenon at this period in time?
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Interesting approach, using astrology to prove a myth.
Oh, and how come this date is not widely accepted by Christian scholars? Are they all really stupid or just not real Christians? As far as I'm aware,there is no consensus. Dates vary from 2 bce to 7bce,with 5bce being commonly accepted.
It's always bemused me that Christians don't actually know the date (or year) of Jesus' birth or death. Didn't anyone ever think of just asking his mother?
PS: I also think it's not unreasonable to expect Miriam to remember the date of the annunciation. After all it's not every day a young girl of 12 or 13 receives a personal visit from an angel of the Lord.You'd think it might stick in her mind.
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From Wiki on Jesus' possible year of birth.
Quote:There is no contemporary historical evidence demonstrating the date of Jesus’ birth. The common Gregorian calendar method for numbering years, in which the current year is 2011, is based on an early medieval attempt to count the years from a point of reference — namely, Jesus’ birth — which Dionysius Exiguus placed, either mistakenly or intentionally, sometime between 2 BC/BCE and 1 AD/CE.[42] The Gospel of Matthew states Jesus’ birth occurred during the reign of Herod the Great, who died in 4 BC/BCE,[43] but also with the intimation that Jesus may have been as much as two years old when Herod ordered the Massacre of the Innocents, and therefore that he may have been even older at the time of Herod's death. The Gospel of Luke similarly points to Jesus’ birth as having occurred during the reign of Herod the Great (i.e., sometime between 37 and 4 BC/BCE), but the author of Luke also describes the birth as taking place during the first census of the Roman provinces of Syria and Iudaea, which is generally believed to have occurred in 6 AD/CE.[44] Most scholars generally assume a date of birth between 6 and 4 BC/BCE.[45] Other scholars assume that Jesus was born sometime between 7–2 BC/BCE and died sometime between 26–36 AD/CE.[46][47][48][49][50] Additional evidence uncovered in 1923 by archeologists digging in the ruins of a Roman Temple near Ankara, Turkey points to 8 BC based on descriptions of three empire-wide censuses, one of which occurred in 8 BC.[51][vague]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus
You might want to read the link KichigaNeko posted above it is very interesting and free, if you are not opposed to putting out a little cash you can purchase the Dvd I metioned in my post.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.