(February 4, 2016 at 7:09 am)Irrational Wrote:(February 4, 2016 at 4:36 am)Sheed1980 Wrote: The point is there are many messages of understanding to grasp aside from God's original message in the verses.
The problem is that you and your fellow apologists are the ones adding these "hidden meanings" to the Qur'anic text.
Quote:For instance the word moon is used throughout the entire Qur'an 27 times and the word for new moon is used only once. When added together they total 28 which is the exact number of phases of the moon as it orbits our planet.
Where did you get that there are exactly 28 moon phases? Do you check the sources for your "facts"?
Quote:And the word for land is used 13 times and the word for sea 32 times totalling 45.13/45=28.8888889% and 32/45=71.111111% THE EXACT percentages of water and land that covers our Earth.
And where did you get that these are the exact percentages? Again, make sure you're checking the sources for these claims before spouting them out as facts.
Quote:So my point being God uses these miracles to show only He can create such a book. What man will write a verse that says "In a land close by" or from a land facing east" and over a 23 year period that the Qur'an was revealed, keep count of how many times he used the word land then make sure it fits perfectly in the equation of exactly how much water and land cover the Earth, especially when the man Prophet Muhammad pbuh was illiterate and in the 7th century when no human knew how much water and land was on Earth. So God shows through these miracles that only He has knowledge of things during that time period which He has blessed us to use todays science and math and confirm it as the truth
Numerology is anything but math or science. Numerology is making up numbers and then trying to see if there are some interesting patterns in a large body of text using these made up numbers. And any large body of text can do that for you. Not just the Qur'an. So nothing impressive here at all. Plus, it doesn't help that you most likely got your scientific "facts" wrong anyway.
Numerology in antiquity's religions, both polytheism and monotheism was very popular. It was a literary device used to over conflate a story or idea. Most humans back then couldn't visualize big numbers, or even couldn't count at all. So when a holy person spoke of a story, they used big numbers to make the legend fantastic and big.
This tactic is to varying degrees in all religions, not just the books of Abraham.
