(February 23, 2011 at 2:12 pm)Rwandrall Wrote: 1. There are millions of Muslims living in developed countries. And they don't kill apostates. At all.That's all fine and dandy if you keep in mind that those Muslims are outnumbered and aliens in a land with secular law long established. Were they to indulge commonly in killing apostates, I'd worry about who's running whom.
But let me point out an even bigger flaw with your silly statement - there aren't a lot of apostates in the open anyways, so how can you truly argue there is no harm when the demographic we're trying to protect is inherently in hiding, because they are targets?
How many young women in Britain already have been brutally assaulted, violated and even murdered by their enraged Muslim relatives for straying outside of faith, dating non-Muslims or even wearing pants?
You astound me with your ignorance of the monster that is condoned, accepted and even fed by the religious.
(February 23, 2011 at 2:12 pm)Rwandrall Wrote: 2. Christians arguing for more faith at school are a small minority in the US and in my country of France they essentially do not exist. The vast majority are NOT god-freaks.Wrong again, bucko. Let me slap you with some data, as opposed to your handwave-y "they're not ALL bad" mumbo-jumbo.
REF: http://people-press.org/commentary/?analysisid=118
To sum up, in America (US), an astounding body of people desire faith in schools (creationism et al.) 'Nuff said.
(February 23, 2011 at 2:12 pm)Rwandrall Wrote: 3. Christianity says you should kill homosexuals. However hate-crimes against gays are rare: what does that say about how little they care about what their religion says ?Hate crimes against gays are rare?!?! You know what, that's it, I am stopping there. You have no boundaries defined as to how much is too much, etc, so trying to have a dialogue with you about non-heterosexuality and society is already on shakey grounds.
(February 23, 2011 at 2:12 pm)Rwandrall Wrote: 4. I cannot say this enough. The VAST majority of theists in developed countries (i cannot say for developing countries but it's probably true for many of them) are basically deists. They believe in a higher power, put a name on it (Jesus, Jahweh, etc) and that is IT, that is ALL that they see in their religion. Calling them "corrupt", and even worse "flawed" like they are inferior is exactly the rhetoric that is not going to lead to any kind of dialogue.
You only see the extremes and that is in no way a good thing in my eyes...
No. Just no. Show me the data about their beliefs, else you have nothing to support your statement.
Here is my evidence against your statements, with respect to the United States:
Quote:PRINCETON, NJ -- Four in 10 Americans, slightly fewer today than in years past, believe God created humans in their present form about 10,000 years ago. Thirty-eight percent believe God guided a process by which humans developed over millions of years from less advanced life forms, while 16%, up slightly from years past, believe humans developed over millions of years, without God's involvement.REF: http://www.gallup.com/poll/145286/Four-A...onism.aspx
Looks to me that they are not deists.
I wonder how other countries are doing?
