(February 23, 2011 at 3:00 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: That's all fine and dandy if you keep in mind that those Muslims are outnumbered and aliens in a land with secular law long established. Were they to indulge commonly in killing apostates, I'd worry about who's running whom.
But let me point out an even bigger flaw with your silly statement - there aren't a lot of apostates in the open anyways, so how can you truly argue there is no harm when the demographic we're trying to protect is inherently in hiding, because they are targets?
How many young women in Britain already have been brutally assaulted, violated and even murdered by their enraged Muslim relatives for straying outside of faith, dating non-Muslims or even wearing pants?
You astound me with your ignorance of the monster that is condoned, accepted and even fed by the religious.
So in a secular land, Muslims actually let the Law of the Land take over the Law of the Lord. This is pretty damn big. And again, those with those extreme beliefs are still a minority, the majority are good, law-abiding citizens. Your view of Muslims is way too extreme, and again this absolutely stops any dialogue from happening.
Quote:Wrong again, bucko. Let me slap you with some data, as opposed to your handwave-y "they're not ALL bad" mumbo-jumbo.
REF: http://people-press.org/commentary/?analysisid=118
To sum up, in America (US), an astounding body of people desire faith in schools (creationism et al.) 'Nuff said.
1. "In America": America has strong christian tendencies ? NO WAI !!?! Also America is not the whole world. In fact it's a a rather small part of it.
2. There is a HUGE difference between "wanting" something and "arguing" for it which was what i was talking about.
Quote:Hate crimes against gays are rare?!?! You know what, that's it, I am stopping there. You have no boundaries defined as to how much is too much, etc, so trying to have a dialogue with you about non-heterosexuality and society is already on shakey grounds.
80% of the US is Christian, and their religion asks them to kill gays. However there are still gays, and a great number of them too. How do you explain that if they are all crazy insane fanatics ?
Quote:No. Just no. Show me the data about their beliefs, else you have nothing to support your statement.
Here is my evidence against your statements, with respect to the United States:
Quote:PRINCETON, NJ -- Four in 10 Americans, slightly fewer today than in years past, believe God created humans in their present form about 10,000 years ago. Thirty-eight percent believe God guided a process by which humans developed over millions of years from less advanced life forms, while 16%, up slightly from years past, believe humans developed over millions of years, without God's involvement.REF: http://www.gallup.com/poll/145286/Four-A...onism.aspx
Looks to me that they are not deists.
I wonder how other countries are doing?
First, being a creationist does not make you an extremist. It is a stupid belief to have but it is not something that makes you a murderer. It just makes you an idiot.
And in every single other developed country, creationists are a laughable minority
The majority of both muslims and christians, at least in developed nations, are reasonable people, and calling them retards and idiots will prevent any useful dialogue from occurring.