RE: Why the USA is a disgrace
February 6, 2016 at 3:52 pm
(This post was last modified: February 6, 2016 at 4:02 pm by Jello.
Edit Reason: Wrong terminology
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(February 6, 2016 at 3:40 pm)abaris Wrote:(February 6, 2016 at 3:30 pm)Jello Wrote: Yeah. Both sides were brutal there.
But then again, it's also where enormous shows of bravery happened. (Such as the men of the 12th German army, fighting right at the end of the war, to get people from Berlin to the Elbe, where they could surrender to the Americans, rather than die at the hands of the Russians. Saved at least 250,000 people, when two and a half million men were bearing down on berlin. Gotta say, they have my respect for that, as they were totally outgunned and outnumbered, but still fought to hold the corridor open.)
There's also Dönitz saying, he only prolonged the war by another week to get as many fugitives as possible to safety. But that's very much up for debate, since it's his own claim, not corroborated by anyone else. But truth is, the German navy did little else than shipping civilians west during the last days.
Yeah. At the end, for all of the military, it was just getting people out, and trying to slow the russian advance long enough to get as many as they could away safely.
There's also stories such as the Franz Stigler and charlie brown incident, in which instead of shooting down a totally ruined B-17 with an injured crew (They didn't even shoot at him when he pulled in close). He flew alongside it, as the fact that they hadn't opened fire was strange, and looking through a gigantic hole in it's fuselage, he saw the terrified crew staring back at him. So, he guided it back as far as he could effectively shielding it from AA fire (Germany had captured B-17s at this point, so a Bf-109 flying next to one basically meant that they wouldn't shoot it down), simply because he thought that it was just like shooting someone who had parachuted out, which his training officer had stated something along the lines of "If you shoot someone in a parachute, i'll shoot you". But when he'd gotten as far as he could, he gave a short salute, and that was it, he pulled away, and the crew was amazed that they were alive. Charlie brown and Franz met up after the war, and were apparently the best of friends till they eventually passed away.
"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. For if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes unto you."