Near death experience of Howard Storm

[Pat Mustard]

Scooby wrote:   I'll talk about the veridical NDEs if you want to hear about that. Those are when people witness events away from their body while unconscious that are later verified as true by other witnesses. Like being in a hospital room, but witnessing a doctor in surgery that is verified as to happened by that doctor.

(Yes, I gave up on the quote function for the moment.)

Here is the OBE claim that would be oh so easy to prove.  Isolate someone who claims to be able to accomplish self-guided OBE's and video tape them.
Have a stranger in another location do something and videotape that.  (Bake cookies, clean house, doesn't matter what.)  If the OBE traveller can describe the action without leaving the room, you have confirmation.  Simple.

Find one that fits the control qualifications and present it here.

The Parnia experiment was doing something similar, in his case he was putting a cardboard sign in a place that subjects wouldn't see normally but would if they were oob (eg on top of a tall wardrobe). Unfortunately, he dropped this line of enquiry when it was clear he was going to get no positive hits, and instead went with a year old story which was "impossible to fake" [sic] instead.