RE: Gay, Catholic and Doing Fine
February 9, 2016 at 1:33 pm
(This post was last modified: February 9, 2016 at 1:37 pm by athrock.)
(February 9, 2016 at 12:09 am)Aractus Wrote: Well here's the problem. The New Testament, in the section written by Paul and Associates says to treat them badly. It's not a matter for interpretation, I quoted it to you. It's just like that section on excommunication that the Church would rather bury and ignore.
I was following you reasonably well until this point.
How is it that Paul tells us to treat women badly? By not allowing them to teach in Church? Ah...poor things. They can't stand up and preach. Seriously? That's your idea of treating women badly?
And how is it that Jesus missed an opportunity to teach on divorce? When asked about divorce,
Matthew 19:8
Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning.
Jesus upheld God's original intent expressed by the prophet, Malachi:
Malachi 2:16
16 “For I hate divorce, says the Lord the God of Israel, and covering one’s garment with violence, says the Lord of hosts. So take heed to yourselves and do not be faithless.”
(February 9, 2016 at 12:09 am)Aractus Wrote:Catechism Wrote:Chastity and homosexuality
2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,141 tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered."142 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.
2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is not freely chosen, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.
Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.
What I want to highlight here is the fact that nearly all of this doctrine completely ignores the Bible, and gives incorrect information (claiming the psychology is unexplained). It's also self-contradictory. The Bible says, in the New Testament no less, that it is caused by disobedience in God. Make of that what you will.
I disagree with your conclusions regarding the Catechism's statement, but I do thank you for posting it so that the LGBT community in this forum can see clearly that the Catholic Church teaches that they must be "accepted with respect, compassion and sensitivity" - the very point the author of the article in the OP made.