Why the USA is a disgrace

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Thumpalumpacus

If you're insinuating those numbers are false, you'll need evidence.

People lie. Governments precisely do it on such a huge scale.
Like the WMD lie that costed the lives of 2 million innocent Iraqies and lots of Americans too.

People lie. That's my evidence. And the government that is included in these stats, is the same government that sold a lie, that costed the lives of millions.

Irrelevant, in economic terms, and our discussion is about economics. Stick to the discussion at hand and quit trying to throw sand in the eyes of the readers.

Assuming a "perfect plane/environment  that is clear of variables -you call it sand-" is useful when the discussion is about making a general rule . Though in this situation, we're actually discussing a political/economical/military/environmental issue; it is so complex and each of the elements (variables) composing this issue cannot be separated unless we want to study a certain element to conclude a strategy, or judge the benefit or negativity of a certain technique.

It all melts to compose the big picture.  

I've already pointed out to you that this is a strawman you're building. If you're going to argue against facts, could you at least do so honestly?

How so ?
Tar Sands are proven to be more expensive to process, I didn't plant this strawman, neither did I build it. The scarecrow is already walking in the shadow of the oil industry.

The techniques used to extract Canadian oil cannot be used when the oil is deposited in a different manner. This "let's assume" horseshit is just that, horseshit, because liquid deposits cannot be processed like tarsands.

Rather than "let's assume", why don't you stop assuming that you are right, and instead start reading about the topic you're opining on? Because it's clear to me that you don't know your ass from third base about it.

I'm assuming for the sake of your argument, I wanted to meet on common ground -that Canada will keep supplying the U.S and everybody wil23l live happily ever after-, but fine, let's forget about the "perfect plane that has no variables", and let's discuss the real issue.

Define "shaken". Oil was at $120/bbl in August of 08 ... the world still turned.

The price drops we see today.
Oil sands are expensive. With the barrel stuck below 30 $ , it's logical to ask how Canada would be able to handle the losses that results from the price difference.

And increasing the production rate causes huge environmental issues. So, that's how complicated the issue is.

No, I don't have to excuse you. I expect you to treat me as an individual person, rather than a stereotypical this-or-that. I am giving you that courtesy, and I expect it in return.

You must excuse everybody, because every soul is living a struggle you know nothing about.

Wait. You said in your last post that it was pegged to oil. Now you're agreeing with me that it's a fiat currency.

You need to get your facts straight before you post, so that I don't have to point out these self-contradictions of yours.

You didn't get the irony of the system; it's oil priced in a fiat currency.
In other words; the Sauds have sold their souls in exchange of American toilet paper.

No, they didn't. Lying men did.

These numbers, however, are of a different stripe. Your attempt to assert their dishonesty without providing any support for your accusation is empty argumentation emanating from a person who seems to be afraid to admit error.

Very unimpressive.

Numbers can be forged too.

and no, I wasn't born in America. 

Oh, the melodrama! If you're dead, how the hell are you posting?That's right, you carry your fight forward courageously ... online. Forgive the rolling of my eyes.

Yeah, you need to come here and see the torture methods that our Arab regimes have for us