Interracial Marriage and the Bible

[Athene]

The problem is your belief that everyone views racial identity through the lens of your particular childhood experiences, as well as your belief that everyone engages in your signature brand of binary thinking. Your refusal to acknowledge the fact that "a sense of community and belonging" can be attributed to an infinite number of shared interests and goals outside of race, demonstrates this very well. So, this assertion that one MUST belong to one community or none at all, is ridiculous and patently untrue.

According to whom/what? is this a product of well wishing?

According to the dictionary, Drich..under "community". Quit pretending I've stated something insanely naive or over-the-top here; It's annoying and disingenuous as hell. 

Who have you spoken what resource have you tapped?

Reality.

Again the only time race is not an issue is when you belong to one or another.

Drich, you need to understand something: You're nowhere near as slick as you believe yourself to be, so enough with the deliberate misrepresentations and diversions, Sport. I know, that you know PRECISELY what the fuck I'm talking about.

I'm talking about your attempts to paint me as some sort of liberal twit or clueless Pollyanna, who doesn't get how the fucking world works. I am not under the illusion that "race is not an issue".  I can guarantee you that I most certainly know better than that; So you can knock it the hell off from here on out. You don't get to misrepresent me because you're too puffed up and full of pride to admit that you clearly misspoke.
 
YOU are the one that made a demonstrably false statement in one of your earlier posts on this thread, in declaring that the offspring of interracial couples CANNOT feel a sense of community or belonging, as a blanket statement with no additional caveats. You're at fault for allowing your bias to prompt you to make such an outlandishly stupid claim. I responded to your initial claim by simply stating the obvious: That race and/or racial identity is not the ONLY issue or means through which people can experience a sense of community or belonging. 

Nor is it he ALWAYS the primary driving force that motivates ALL people, in ALL manner of things, at EVERY moment of existence, as you foolishly insist on maintaining in your desperate attempt to be "right".

Thena

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I know of many mixed children and teens who simply identify as both races, and have no problem stating as such, because it's a simple statement of fact; They are part of both communities.They're quite capable of maintaining friendships, as well as relationships with family members and other individuals within multiple racial categories. Sorry you couldn't seem to make a go of it, but others often do.

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Again i did not say these people MY people can not be loved. or belong to a social group.

 

Consistency, Drich....You have no people, remember?

Anyhow, Sure. I see that you've now "adjusted" your statement  by acknowledging that biracial individuals CAN in fact belong to a community "social group".  I'm guessing that the fact you've just dismantled what is essentially the main premise of your entire argument  will be summarily dismissed by you from this point on, correct? 

Of course, it will. That's why you insist on assigning me with shit I never stated, and persist in attempting suck me into a vortex unrelated side garbage throughout this post. Clearly you're the the type of person who would sooner die, than admit that one of the primary tenets in your declaration of "Truth" is just plain fucking wrong.
 

I said we do not have a cultural heritage that bonds people together for the simply fact that they belong to a given race of people.

No. You don't feel as such.

In reality, many matter-of-factly UNDERSTAND and accept that they simply have more than one racial heritage. 
You'll just continue to "overlook" this very crucial element in continuing your ridiculous narrative, yes?    

Thena

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The point you're attempting to make in this quote makes little sense to me, (especially the last sentence), but I will say that if you're referring to the concept of race as a social construct, then it is NOT absolute. Society's views on issues of race very well can and do change over time, for a variety of reasons...including increased awareness and exposure.  Ever heard of popular morality, Drich? It's a thing!  

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It does not make sense because you are not willing to look at this situation from any other way.

again What I am saying interracial couples take from their children are a 100,000+ years of racial identity. This Will NEVER be replaced by anything else. Yet you want to take this racial identity and replace it with a sentiment that 'society should have' via pop moral standards. To which again I point out that these standards are fleeting, and can change within a person's life time. Yet Racial identity from people of a given race with never change with in those people. Because it about a common blood line and a tangible history, not about a fad or the current popular thinking.

Judging by the post above, it almost seems as if your disdain actually stems from resentment at being robbed of racial purity, rather than racial identity. I hope like hell that your argument isn't actually just some stupid, self-loathing expression of being pissed that you're "not quite white"...because that would just be too sickening and pathetic for words.

Thena

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If someone were to tell me that they don't feel race is the most prevalent factor shaping their identity, I would be inclined to take them at their word. Why? Because I can easily see how being a parent, theistic beliefs (Woot, woot!), military service, social groups/causes, political beliefs, career/occupation/vocation, etc. as being just as, if not more essential in defining who they are most of the time.

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Roflol..
So you don't think race influences ALL of those things? Not that one can't go beyond racial lines, but again I'm asking do you honestly think that race does not heavily influence a decision on any of those topics?

If I were Arab do you not think Islam or my belief in it would not be tied to my people heritage in anyway?
Or if I were Israeli my military service would not be compelled by my community?
What about if I were black or better yet Not black if I were all white do you think it would allow me to say run a chapter of the NAACP without their being a huge controversy?
Do you think If I were black do you think I could pick up any job I wanted in say Korea?

The truth whether you can admit to it or not is that Race defines who we are in the world. granted your little corner may want to pretend to see color, but the world is much bigger place than the 'blue states' would have us believe. In most of the rest of the world culture is Everything, it is identity, it is who and what you are. To you this may be racism, but it is the way the world works beyond the shame of white guilt/those who make white people feel guilty.
Or would you tell an American Indian that he is wrong/raciest for segregating himself on his own sovereign land and seeking to preserve his culture? would you tell a black man he is wrong for seeking to identify and establish his own cultural identity even if it meant he had to be apart of a counter cultural (non-violent) movement? Would you tell a Chinese family that they must 'americanize' themselves and to abandon their culture if it did not accept people as you do?

Or did you just mean white people must blend in with everyone and accept people as if they were with out color?
Because that is the only way your little statement works without the destruction of thousands and thousands of years of unique history and culture.

Hmm. These questions could've been quite challenging to answer, IF I'd ever been arguing the point you've been PRETENDING I am...Classic dick move, btw.

Not entirely unexpected, since you know your original argument is shit.
Back to lab then, yes?

It's like you people can not think outside your little boxes.

Perhaps. 
But, your box is much, much smaller, and smells like  ass.

Crack a window, Drich. It fucking stinks in there.