RE: Interracial Marriage and the Bible
February 17, 2016 at 2:08 am
(This post was last modified: February 17, 2016 at 2:15 am by Athene.)
(February 16, 2016 at 4:43 pm)Drich Wrote:(February 12, 2016 at 5:23 am)Thena323 Wrote:
The problem is your belief that everyone views racial identity through the lens of your particular childhood experiences, as well as your belief that everyone engages in your signature brand of binary thinking. Your refusal to acknowledge the fact that "a sense of community and belonging" can be attributed to an infinite number of shared interests and goals outside of race, demonstrates this very well. So, this assertion that one MUST belong to one community or none at all, is ridiculous and patently untrue.
According to whom/what? is this a product of well wishing?
Who have you spoken what resource have you tapped? or is this you taking the pulse of what you think this nation should be?
Again the only time race is not an issue is when you belong to one or another.
Quote:I know of many mixed children and teens who simply identify as both races, and have no problem stating as such, because it's a simple statement of fact; They are part of both communities.They're quite capable of maintaining friendships, as well as relationships with family members and other individuals within multiple racial categories. Sorry you couldn't seem to make a go of it, but others often do.Again i did not say these people MY people can not be loved. or belong to a social group. I said we do not have a cultural heritage that bonds people together for the simply fact that they belong to a given race of people.
that is a completely different thing.
Quote:Look at your response. You could not point to a social structure equivalent to the self identification say black people have with other black people or whites with whites. You pointed to "It's not as rare as it use to be." Your comparing the right of hundreds of thousands of years of basic self identification, against it's not as rare as it use to be.
Quote:The point you're attempting to make in this quote makes little sense to me, (especially the last sentence), but I will say that if you're referring to the concept of race as a social construct, then it is NOT absolute. Society's views on issues of race very well can and do change over time, for a variety of reasons...including increased awareness and exposure. Ever heard of popular morality, Drich? It's a thing!It does not make sense because you are not willing to look at this situation from any other way.![]()
again What I am saying interracial couples take from their children are a 100,000+ years of racial identity. This Will NEVER be replaced by anything else. Yet you want to take this racial identity and replace it with a sentiment that 'society should have' via pop moral standards. To which again I point out that these standards are fleeting, and can change within a person's life time. Yet Racial identity from people of a given race with never change with in those people. Because it about a common blood line and a tangible history, not about a fad or the current popular thinking.
Quote:If someone were to tell me that they don't feel race is the most prevalent factor shaping their identity, I would be inclined to take them at their word. Why? Because I can easily see how being a parent, theistic beliefs (Woot, woot!), military service, social groups/causes, political beliefs, career/occupation/vocation, etc. as being just as, if not more essential in defining who they are most of the time.Roflol..
So you don't think race influences ALL of those things? Not that one can't go beyond racial lines, but again I'm asking do you honestly think that race does not heavily influence a decision on any of those topics?
If I were Arab do you not think Islam or my belief in it would not be tied to my people heritage in anyway?
Or if I were Israeli my military service would not be compelled by my community?
What about if I were black or better yet Not black if I were all white do you think it would allow me to say run a chapter of the NAACP without their being a huge controversy?
Do you think If I were black do you think I could pick up any job I wanted in say Korea?
The truth whether you can admit to it or not is that Race defines who we are in the world. granted your little corner may want to pretend to see color, but the world is much bigger place than the 'blue states' would have us believe. In most of the rest of the world culture is Everything, it is identity, it is who and what you are. To you this may be racism, but it is the way the world works beyond the shame of white guilt/those who make white people feel guilty.
Or would you tell an American Indian that he is wrong/raciest for segregating himself on his own sovereign land and seeking to preserve his culture? would you tell a black man he is wrong for seeking to identify and establish his own cultural identity even if it meant he had to be apart of a counter cultural (non-violent) movement? Would you tell a Chinese family that they must 'americanize' themselves and to abandon their culture if it did not accept people as you do?
Or did you just mean white people must blend in with everyone and accept people as if they were with out color?
Because that is the only way your little statement works without the destruction of thousands and thousands of years of unique history and culture.
It's like you people can not think outside your little boxes.
Quote:ha ha Really? I was under the impression that it started in Kind-EE-garten!
You don't think Kind-ee-garten or even pee-schools are not selected by the race/type of children who attend?
Again think outside of your little 'blue state, of mind' box.
think how the muslim/Arab, or a jew, or an American Indian, or yes even black people person picks a preschool for their kid.
I had to work a bit late today, so I'm a little too tired to appropriately respond to your Tower of Babble and bullshit attempts at diversion tonight. I am committed to giving your post the response it so richly deserves, though.
I'll be getting to it soon enough...Count on it, Slick.
