RE: Planned Parenthood Sells Infant Body Parts
February 17, 2016 at 7:24 pm
(This post was last modified: February 17, 2016 at 7:39 pm by scoobysnack.)
(February 17, 2016 at 1:28 am)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote:(February 16, 2016 at 10:32 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: The problem is that perceived reality due to all the propaganda, and perception management for the general population, is that when I come in and expose what's happening with population control and show evidence, it's perceived to be inverted.
No, the issue is far simpler than that. No one has the right to force another to do with their body something they don't wish to do. That's why you don't see the people being forced against their will to give up a kidney or part of their liver (even after they're dead) when they're a good match for someone on one of the recipient lists. It's why you don't see people in renal failure hooked up to the kidneys of another person who's a tissue match. Bodily autonomy is a really big deal and making abortion illegal would essentially say that the government has more right over your body than you do.
Is that a precedent you really want set?
Planned parenthood is not all bad, as they do also offer other services for women's health. And honestly, it's a far safer place for a women to get an abortion if she chooses than some shady place with unsanitary conditions and unregulated like existed decades ago. Some used to try to perform abortions themselves, using coat hangers.
Part of the problem is they are carrying another life in the womb, and what about the human rights of the unborn? Some say they are not humans, and therefore deserve no rights, which is a technique of dehumanization. Plus there is a demand by couples that can't have children to adopt new born babies. At the same time unwanted children don't usually grow up in the best environments, so some say it's better to eliminate that life to avoid them becoming a problem later in society. Some say it's a good way to eliminate future poor people that are burdens on society, especially in a collectivist society.
(February 16, 2016 at 11:38 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Let's have a look at some of the claims anti-choicers bring up, shall we?
"Abortion is an attempt to wipe out the black population". Then explain to me why the black population is one of the fastest growing in the US? Soon whites will be a minority.
"It's used as a form of population control!" If so, it's possibly the most ineffective form of population control ever conceived. The population is, after all, growing faster now than at any time in history. And note that people decide to have abortions, it's not forced on them.
Claims do not equal facts - especially when those claims, and the evidence provided is from an anti-choice group. And especially when that group has been known to LIE to push their agenda.
Well if you look at the history of planned parenthood before Roe vs Wade, it all started with the eugenics movement, and encouraging those that the establishment thought were unfit to abort their children, so certain neighborhoods were targeted with nudging them to make the choice that was desired for them. You would have to look at demographics and economics to understand better why whites are having less children to an extent, and blacks are having more. A big factor is education, where those who are focused on getting a degree hold off on starting a family until later in life and then with student loans, they are having one or two children. The black community less focused on education start having children younger due to a variety of reasons. Some want to trap a partner, some want someone to love them in the form of a child they can love back due to bad relationships. Some have more children to get more government benefits, and couple that with the fact you get more if the father does not live with you, it results in more single family homes, which becomes a generational continuation.
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