What's the lamest defence of Theism you've ever heard?

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I'd just like to point out for those keeping score at home that there is not yet any scientific theory about multiverses (unless I'm very much out of the loop). It is unfortunate that it has been popularly coined "multiverse theory", whereas it's actually still a hypothesis.

It's certainly not "ours", whatever that is supposed to mean. Atheists aren't a hive mind. Personally I have no opinion about multiverses.

Still, language is important. If we're talking about a "single universe" and we intend for that universe to be defined as everything that exists, then God cannot have created it. If he exists, he is part of the universe, along with whatever reality he existed in at the time (or haunted, or whatever it is he does). Unless it's being proposed he created himself along with everything else, he can't have created "the universe". This is why I prefer to call this "our reality". It is consistent that our reality was caused/created by something from another reality. But then trying to claim this is creating "everything" is an equivocation fallacy.

I expect it will be "God is outside of space and time" next. If he doesn't have his own version of time, he can't act. If he doesn't/didn't have his own version of reality in which he existed, distinct from ours, he wasn't real. At a bare minimum, he himself was that reality.