Okay, scooby's come off the rails. When you get to the stage when you have to start slinging the brickbats because you can no longer support your own position, if you ever could, the conversation's pretty much over. Sorry, but I outgrew the politics of the school playground thirty years ago.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'