Synthetic meat

[The Grand Nudger]

I do.

I don't know. It seems to me that you don't.

Okay?

How is meat grown in a lab going to cause problems, exactly? And how is it not mitigating the already existent problems by removing the need for consumption of the other sort of meat, provided directly by farm animals, that is?

Oh, you mean...post 17?

Bad practices? Ok, let's assume for even a second that we could ethically prepare animals for slaughter, which is insane, but ok.

We can.

Would you agree to being slaughtered for your meat by a superior race from space that conquered earth, if said race could reasonably survive and preserve their comfort by eating something else other than you, merely because they treated you right before chopping you up for your meat? Can you see how insane this sounds, or not?

I doubt that the first cattle went willingly into the pens any more than I would.  We do know how to survive and preserve the comfort of livestock, it's incredibly lucrative business.  Happy animals have a tendency to be docile and plump....

It sounds like we'd have been dealt a shitty hand by the cosmos...not really insane since it;s in the business of handing out shitty hands..and we're headed the way of the dodo or the cow.  

Of course...it all sounds like fantasy..........so I'm not sure how informative it would be. We're not aliens from space... just human beings, subject to limitations and necessity.

 I recant. It would seem some think we're doing other animals a favor by sacrificing them for their meat(/sarcasm). I didn't imagine it would be possible to even hold such a view.

We're doing ourselves a favor.  It benefits the animals, but as you repeatedly point out, strings are attached.  

All of those goods are simply delivered by virtue of the in vitro meat becoming a better alternative to directly animal-based meats.

They're an alternative to meat for a subset of consumer, that they're "better" is only a different way to say they aren't made out of cow.  I think that the significance of this is being blown entirely out of proportion.  
 

My ideological position is that we shouldn't let sentient creatures suffer for no good reason. What would constitute good reasons? You might argue that comfort and food are, which I would agree with to a certain extent. Take care of those reasons in a different manner, however, and the need for slaughtering animals disappears altogether.

Sure, but this manner doesn't actually do that.  What it does,  is provide a niche consumer with a label on a product they can feel good about.   I'm not sure why you expect it to be anything more?

Now, I can't imagine that you disagree with that. So do we really disagree here, or are we simply pretending to for the sake of the argument(/raised eyebrow)?

You want me to contribute...but my posts are too long, you feel bad for the reader, and you worry that just maybe..I'm pretending.  Anything else?  Get it all out.