RE: Synthetic meat
February 23, 2016 at 9:33 pm
(This post was last modified: February 23, 2016 at 9:46 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Perhaps you went off the rails in responding to some other conversation as though it were a reply to this one? You didn't do much better addressing the ghost of that disagreement in any case.
Compost does not replace manure. Green manures, do not replace animal manures. Compost and green manures together, do not replace manures. They are chemically incapable. Don't take my word for it, go look it up.
Our animals would die if we stopped caring for them. Farming them for other purposes is still caring for them...and gl to you, getting people to farm animals without availing themselves of the meat production opportunity in any case. If you can show them how to make more money, as dairy farmers do, your own example...you might snag some. That would be a good thing. That's what I did, the bug that caught me and got me into what I do now.
No, farmland that is currently used for feeding cattle -cannot- obviously be used for feeding people. I'm surrounded by such land, I own such land. It's cost me alot to make it suitable for feeding people and I use an alternative model that isn;t reliant on the capacity of the land. If it were sufficient, they would be farming mixed vegetables on it rather than cattle feed or cattle. Those few that do have such land in the middle of all this pasture and feed -do- grow mixed vegetables (and still grow animal feed on that same land). Research land use and land classifications, and possibly crop rotations. Don't take my word for it.
What you call being a dick, I call correcting people on misinformation. I care about this shit, I don't like to see it discredited by the peddlers of various nonsense and carried aloft on the winds by well meaning people like yourself. It kills my business and breaks my heart.
You aggressively jumped into the convo with me by proposing non existent false dichotomies, apparently relating to your poor grasp of a previous conversation. Now you have the gall to whine about condescension, and stomp your feet, lol.
Thanks for the last word on that, appreciate it.
Compost does not replace manure. Green manures, do not replace animal manures. Compost and green manures together, do not replace manures. They are chemically incapable. Don't take my word for it, go look it up.
Our animals would die if we stopped caring for them. Farming them for other purposes is still caring for them...and gl to you, getting people to farm animals without availing themselves of the meat production opportunity in any case. If you can show them how to make more money, as dairy farmers do, your own example...you might snag some. That would be a good thing. That's what I did, the bug that caught me and got me into what I do now.
No, farmland that is currently used for feeding cattle -cannot- obviously be used for feeding people. I'm surrounded by such land, I own such land. It's cost me alot to make it suitable for feeding people and I use an alternative model that isn;t reliant on the capacity of the land. If it were sufficient, they would be farming mixed vegetables on it rather than cattle feed or cattle. Those few that do have such land in the middle of all this pasture and feed -do- grow mixed vegetables (and still grow animal feed on that same land). Research land use and land classifications, and possibly crop rotations. Don't take my word for it.
What you call being a dick, I call correcting people on misinformation. I care about this shit, I don't like to see it discredited by the peddlers of various nonsense and carried aloft on the winds by well meaning people like yourself. It kills my business and breaks my heart.
You aggressively jumped into the convo with me by proposing non existent false dichotomies, apparently relating to your poor grasp of a previous conversation. Now you have the gall to whine about condescension, and stomp your feet, lol.
Thanks for the last word on that, appreciate it.
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