RE: My views on objective morality
February 26, 2016 at 11:03 am
(This post was last modified: February 26, 2016 at 11:07 am by Catholic_Lady.)
(February 26, 2016 at 10:41 am)robvalue Wrote:(February 26, 2016 at 6:26 am)robvalue Wrote: My challenge to anyone is simple:
1) Define what morality means, using terms that aren't subjective. If you can't do this, what you are taking about is not objective.
2) If you manage this, tell me why I should care about it.
Would you care to take my challenge then?
Sorry Rob, didn't mean to ignore you! Lots of comments and I don't have as much time today.
1. It means there is objective good and evil. Meaning some acts are objectively good (feeding a starving child) and some acts are objectively evil (raping a vulnerable child). Acting in a way that is good, is moral, and acting in a way that is evil, is immoral. The objectivity in this means we believe it isn't a matter of opinion, but rather, it is fact: good exists, evil exists, acting on them is either moral or immoral. As the video explains, good and evil are not physical. They are not made up of atoms. They are spiritual terms, stemming from the supernatural. That's why it is, in my opinion, impossible to believe in objective morality unless you believe in some form of god.
2. I think you, Rob, don't need to because you are a good person. You have empathy. You are humble, and giving, and selfless. You act morally even though you don't believe in objective morality. But for people who don't have the same heart as you, I think it does matter that they understand that certain things are objectively wrong even if they don't feel empathy. A psychopath might think "well, why shouldn't I rape and kill that woman? I don't feel the least bit sorry for her, and I can pull it off in a way that no one would ever find out and come after me." In this case, it would be important for someone like him to have the understanding that certain acts are wrong even if he personally wouldn't otherwise feel they are.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh