(February 27, 2016 at 11:38 am)Drich Wrote:(February 27, 2016 at 10:17 am)Jehanne Wrote: This doctrine was plainly taught in the early pre-medieval Christian Church:
Of course, Holy "Mother" Catholic Church has changed its/her tune on this one, but if it is true "now" that everyone who is conceived and born will transition from a state of "original sin" to a state of "sanctifying grace," why bother converting at all, or trying to convert anyone else? If all infants who die in infancy are, in fact, saved, when does the "transition" come for those of them (us) who survive infancy that they (we) need to "convert" back to a state of sanctifying grace? Or, does any of this still make sense to anyone?
Well it's nice to see the 'church' catch back up with the actual bible once in a while. In the bible's version it is Christ who decides who is saved and who is not, he does this by a personal examination of one's life. If and when you could comprehend sin and how much of the gospel you were exposed to verse how you responded to said gospel. the parable of the talents sums all of this up. "We are only responsible for what God has given us." Meaning it is not a church or religious movement's clauses, and rituals that saves you, but Christ's own personal judgement.
Man, that sounds like an awful lot of paper work. I hope Jesus has an office somewhere.
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Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.