(February 27, 2016 at 12:38 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:(February 27, 2016 at 12:00 am)abaris Wrote: So, you don't look at the video? Fine, keep your ass talking. It's just hot air with some smell.*emphasis mine*
No, I didn't look him up before posting and spelled his name. I just remembered him. Since I actually watched his work. As opposed to you, who don't look at his work but only on wiki shit.
Oh so now you're too good for Wikipedia? So I guess that means you never used it as a source before?
oh wait... A quick search of your name with "wiki" yielded 4 pages of results. Here's just a small sample because YOU use Wikipedia a lot dude.
This just takes the cake though
(June 24, 2015 at 8:43 am)abaris Wrote: That's a pretty good wiki page on the different forms of anarchism and what they wanted society or better, the absence of society, to look like.So Wikipedia is fine as long as YOU'RE using it to make a point, but if it's being used against you it's no longer credible?
You sir are a clown, always poppin off at the mouth, you really need to shut up and go sit down somewhere.
Now that that's out of the way:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frans_de_Waal
Quote:His 2013 book The Bonobo and the Atheist examines human behavior through the eyes of a primatologist, and explores how much God and religion are needed for human morality. The main conclusion is that morality comes from within, and is part of human nature.http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2013/03...use-of-god
Quote:Further, de Waal doesn't go so far as to equate animal goodness with morality. "I am reluctant to call a chimpanzee a 'moral being'," he writes. "There is little evidence that other animals judge the appropriateness of actions that do not directly affect themselves."*emphasis mine*
What sets human morality apart, he believes, depends on our greater powers of abstraction, and involves "a move toward universal standards combined with an elaborate system of justification, monitoring, and punishment. At this point, religion comes in."
A scientist and non-believer, de Waal isn't saying here that religion is required for human morality, only that the two have been entwined throughout human history.
As you can see, he is clearly not a christian like you think he is.
The following is from an article that Frans de Waal wrote for the NY times (which I believe qualifies as his work ).
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/201...thout-god/
Quote:At the same time, however, I am reluctant to call a chimpanzee a “moral being.” This is because sentiments do not suffice. We strive for a logically coherent system, and have debates about how the death penalty fits arguments for the sanctity of life, or whether an unchosen sexual orientation can be wrong. These debates are uniquely human. We have no evidence that other animals judge the appropriateness of actions that do not affect themselves. The great pioneer of morality research, the Finn Edward Westermarck, explained what makes the moral emotions special: “Moral emotions are disconnected from one’s immediate situation: they deal with good and bad at a more abstract, disinterested level.” This is what sets human morality apart: a move towards universal standards combined with an elaborate system of justification, monitoring and punishment.*emphasis mine*
Now what?
Holy ad hominem, or tu quoque, or both, Huggy. Why don't you try staying on track and addressing abaris's point to you?
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.