My views on objective morality

[bennyboy]

Not todays catholic church. They steer an ambivalent course on that matter. Same goes for evolution.

Negatron...I just linked the catechism, the declaration of vatican 1, and a pope on the subject.  Todays -catholics- are ambivalent in these regards -in spite- of their doctrines, which are not.  A person cannot believe in the current theory of evolution or the reliability of genetic evidence and remain faithful to catholic doctrine.  The church is holding out hope that we will find a "correct" theory that allows for adam, eve.  They believe it really happened and so it's understandable why they would do that.  That's what they're referring to when they say catholics can believe in evolution.  It's the same bait and switch the fundies pull day in and day out.  A novel use of a misleading term or phrase.

Catholics, however, don't give a fuck anymore.  Some of them, apparently, don't even know they're supposed to give a fuck.

In the same vein, todays catholics are not as concerned with the moral demands of their church, regardless of whether they come from a man in a funny hat or god.  They were already rudderless, now they're a rudderless mob.  St. Peter would weep to see it.

This isn't really new.  First, there was Jesus, then there were Christmas trees, Easter eggs and little flying naked boys on a romantic holiday.  The catholic church has NEVER been about Jesus purism, and has ALWAYS been about getting more people to show up on Sunday.  I mean, how else do you go from "sell your possessions to feed the poor" to "abstain, wear dresses inlaid with gold, and live in a giant golden castle surrounded by Swiss guards."

How to you go from "dwell not on the rituals of man, but rather on the word of God" to swinging smoking censers and speaking in Latin?
How do you go from imprisoning scientists for contradicting the Bible to taking the Bible "figuratively" as CL does?

I'm not against the God idea as much as you are, but bullshit religion is obvious bullshit religion.