(February 29, 2016 at 12:02 am)MysticKnight Wrote:(February 26, 2016 at 11:12 am)robvalue Wrote: OK thanks for your answer CL
I didn't understand it, but I appreciate it nonetheless. Words like "spiritual" don't mean anything to me. I don't understand how morality is anything other than a judgement. I really don't know what you actually think it is.
And thank you for your kind words I agree that psychopaths are problematic, and getting them to fit in with society is difficult. This is the one case in which I think religion has half a leg to stand on, but I still think there are better ways.
I'm sorry but I don't buy you don't understand it. I don't. I think you can tell there is a difference in a judgement of for example what clothes look better to wear and what action is more morally right. You can also "judge" what tastes better or not. Chocolate or vanilla. Pizza or Chicken. Etc... It doesn't matter which one in this respect. But morals do matter more specifically because they are of a certain spiritual nature. Albeit, some are not better decisions then the other, but will none the less give different spiritual hues often depending on which path of spiritually beauty we incline to ( I think you understand this perfectly as well).
You can also "judge" what tastes better or not. Chocolate or vanilla. Pizza or Chicken. Etc... It doesn't matter which one in this respect. But vegetables do matter more specifically because they are of a certain spiritual nature. Albeit, some are not better foods then the other, but will none the less give different spiritual hues often depending on which path of spiritually beauty we incline to ( I think you understand this perfectly as well).
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.