RE: My views on objective morality
February 29, 2016 at 8:27 pm
(This post was last modified: February 29, 2016 at 8:31 pm by abaris.)
(February 29, 2016 at 8:10 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: No, God did not write the bible. He inspired the bible, but it was still written by men, through the filter of men. Not by the hand of God.
It hasn't been written at all, but compiled during the 4th century. As I said, by leaving certain parts out, editing others and taking other parts. The only inspiration were the bishops craving for power.
I guess, I already pointed it out in a different thread, but the high and mighties made a U turn to get into the good graces of the Roman emperor. Before they started to suck up to the empire, there were influencal church fathers excommunicating everyone doing military service. Many were opposed to capital punishment and opposed to deliver any criminal at all.
Quote:A soldier of the civil authority must be taught not to kill men and to refuse to do so if he is commanded, and to refuse to take an oath. If he is unwilling to comply, he must be rejected for baptism. A military commander or civic magistrate must resign or be rejected. If a believer seeks to become a soldier, he must be rejected, for he has despised God.
— Hippolytus of Rome[
Quote: One soul cannot be due to two masters—God and Cæsar. And yet Moses carried a rod, and Aaron wore a buckle, and John (Baptist) is girt with leather and Joshua the son of Nun leads a line of march; and the People warred: if it pleases you to sport with the subject. But how will a Christian man war, nay, how will he serve even in peace, without a sword, which the Lord has taken away? For albeit soldiers had come unto John, and had received the formula of their rule; albeit, likewise, a centurion had believed; still the Lord afterward, in disarming Peter, unbelted every soldier. No dress is lawful among us, if assigned to any unlawful action.
— Tertullian, On Idolatry Chapter 19: Concerning Military Service
Quote:Those soldiers were filled with wonder and admiration at the grandeur of the man’s piety and generosity and were struck with amazement. They felt the force of this example of pity. As a result, many of them were added to the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ and threw off the belt of military service.
— Disputation of Archelaus and Manes
And many more.
(February 29, 2016 at 8:12 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: The Church existed before the bible did. Peter was the first pope, whom we believe was appointed by Jesus.
And how come, the Romans didn't record this? The Romman empire remained a politheist nation until the year 385. Undisputed until 325, when Constantine made the first move to legalize them.