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Is Ghandi goint to hell or eternal death
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RE: Is Ghandi goint to hell or eternal death
Quote:hmmm..well, he didnt threaten to torture people for all eternity in a lake of fire if they didnt believe in him
Point out to me in the Bible where Jesus says this..
- Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: (Jesus says hell is full of eternal fire, and if your hand causes you to sin against Jesus, then you should cut it off. Jesus basically threatens that it would be better to cut your sinful hand off than to piss Jesus of and have him throw you into eternal hell fire..Jesus is quite nasty and disturbing..he carries on and on about cutting of body parts.)

- Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. (Jesus casts death and Hell and everyone who wasnt saved by worshipping him and excepting him as their lord and savior into the lake of fire. If you ask me, this is a bit redundant on the bibles behalf to say that Hell is fire, but Hell will be thrown into a lake of fire, but the bible is far from being a science book. Its not even well written theology...and yet more proof that the bible cant even get its own fictional places right)

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Quote:He didnt cure blindness with spit and dirt.
Mark 8:22And he cometh to Bethsaida; and they bring a blind man unto him, and besought him to touch him. 23And he took the blind man by the hand, and led him out of the town; and when he had spit on his eyes, and put his hands upon him, he asked him if he saw ought. (okay, so I dont see the dirt part. Must be in some other translation I read..but there is deffinitely spit)

Mark 7: 31-37 And again, departing from the coasts of Tyre and Sidon, he came unto the sea of Galilee, through the midst of the coasts of Decapolis. 32And they bring unto him one that was deaf, and had an impediment in his speech; and they beseech him to put his hand upon him. 33And he took him aside from the multitude, and put his fingers into his ears, and he spit, and touched his tongue; 34And looking up to heaven, he sighed, and saith unto him, Ephphatha, that is, Be opened. 35And straightway his ears were opened, and the string of his tongue was loosed, and he spake plain. 36And he charged them that they should tell no man: but the more he charged them, so much the more a great deal they published it; 37And were beyond measure astonished, saying, He hath done all things well: he maketh both the deaf to hear, and the dumb to speak. (more spit, no dirt..oh well..I still get the points)

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Quote:He didnt claim to come from a virgin
Luke 1:27-37 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary. 28And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women. 29And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be. 30And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. 31And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. 32He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: 33And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end. 34Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? 35And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God. 36And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren. 37For with God nothing shall be impossible. (The holy ghost, a member of the trinity, which means the holy ghost IS Jesus, says that Jesus will be born of a virgin)

This is very basic Christian dogma, so I will have to award you a negative point for asking an atheist if Jesus was born from a virgin

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Here is the verses where Jesus casts out demons-
Mark 7:30And when she was come to her house, she found the devil gone out, and her daughter laid upon the bed.

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Quote:Hey, remember all of those messages Jesus preached? You know, about turning the other cheek, being kind to others, giving to the poor and needy, being nonviolent, etc., etc....? Weren't those all things that guy named Gandhi practiced, as well?

What a coincidence, huh?
Of course I remember many of the messages in the bible that Jesus said, apparently your memory of some of the most basic things Jesus said about Christianity is lacking for you to have to ask an atheist to point them out to you, so your sarcastic reply has lost its umph. Turning the other cheek is NOT copyrighted by Christ. There were pacifist WAY before Christ was invented. Nobody in the world was kind before Christ was invented? I think not. Kindness is not trademarked by Christ. Charity is trademarked by Christ? So nobody helped anyone before Christ was invented? I think not. etc..etc...these are not "Christ like" messages. They are "Humanist" messages. Unless you believe none of this kindness stuff existed before Christ was invented.

Did Ghandi accept Jesus Christ as his personal lord and savior? No. He was a Hindu. Therefore Jesus Christ will (according to the mythology) toss Ghandi into Hell, and into the lake of fire of the second death to be tortured by flames for eternity.

Isnt Jesus a prick?
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Messages In This Thread
Is Ghandi goint to hell or eternal death - by Ervin - February 16, 2011 at 5:11 pm
RE: Is Ghandi goint to hell or eternal death - by padraic - February 16, 2011 at 11:13 pm
RE: Is Ghandi goint to hell or eternal death - by Godschild - February 17, 2011 at 12:12 am
RE: Is Ghandi goint to hell or eternal death - by Minimalist - February 17, 2011 at 12:14 am
RE: Is Ghandi goint to hell or eternal death - by Zen Badger - February 17, 2011 at 7:14 am
RE: Is Ghandi goint to hell or eternal death - by Godschild - February 17, 2011 at 9:39 am
RE: Is Ghandi goint to hell or eternal death - by KichigaiNeko - February 17, 2011 at 10:11 am
RE: Is Ghandi goint to hell or eternal death - by Zen Badger - February 17, 2011 at 10:28 am
RE: Is Ghandi goint to hell or eternal death - by Anomalocaris - February 17, 2011 at 11:00 am
RE: Is Ghandi goint to hell or eternal death - by OnlyNatural - February 17, 2011 at 10:15 am
RE: Is Ghandi goint to hell or eternal death - by Godschild - February 17, 2011 at 11:29 am
RE: Is Ghandi goint to hell or eternal death - by Godschild - February 17, 2011 at 4:46 pm
RE: Is Ghandi goint to hell or eternal death - by Godschild - February 17, 2011 at 10:36 pm
RE: Is Ghandi goint to hell or eternal death - by theVOID - February 18, 2011 at 5:51 am
RE: Is Ghandi goint to hell or eternal death - by Anomalocaris - February 18, 2011 at 12:54 am
RE: Is Ghandi goint to hell or eternal death - by KichigaiNeko - February 17, 2011 at 11:45 am
RE: Is Ghandi goint to hell or eternal death - by OnlyNatural - February 17, 2011 at 11:45 am
RE: Is Ghandi goint to hell or eternal death - by Minimalist - February 17, 2011 at 12:31 pm
RE: Is Ghandi goint to hell or eternal death - by Welsh cake - February 18, 2011 at 2:24 pm
RE: Is Ghandi goint to hell or eternal death - by Minimalist - February 18, 2011 at 2:31 pm
RE: Is Ghandi goint to hell or eternal death - by Watson - March 4, 2011 at 10:20 am
RE: Is Ghandi goint to hell or eternal death - by Watson - March 4, 2011 at 12:59 pm
RE: Is Ghandi goint to hell or eternal death - by reverendjeremiah - March 4, 2011 at 8:49 pm

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