(March 2, 2016 at 6:57 pm)bennyboy Wrote:(March 2, 2016 at 1:05 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I disagree. Example: you can have a genetic proclivity for addictive behavior, but because you were raised to despise drug users, your personal feelings kept you from being an addict. A result of environment, yet still intensely subjective.
Morality is no different. Altruism may be wired into our genetics at different levels for different individuals, but one's upbringing influences one's mental attitudes towards the morality of altruism. And when you invoke one's upbringing, you are introducing subjectivity into the process, because experiences do not matter until we mentally process them.
I think this is pretty consistent with the kind of objective morality that CL believes in: there IS an objective morality, and we are aware of it on some level, but we are free to regard or disregard that moral sense. In other words, the individual person isn't guaranteed to express moral predispositions. And that would be where Christian ideas about free will (and punishment/reward) come into play.
I'd also like to introduce the idea of the 7 Deadly Sins as a catalogue of those animal instincts which are most likely to influence people to subject their ability to act morally. If you think, it's kind of a list of those natural motivations which, if we feed them too much, may subvert one's will.
Again, I disagree. The morality inculcated into the youth could well be that drug usage or abortions are fine, even though genetically we are inclined to avoid poisons or having our bodies entered for the removal of a fetus.
However, my point was addressing the objectivity of a genetic basis for morality,not an objective morality in the sense CL means it (or so I think). Physical human growth is clearly affected by the growth environment. How much more complicated human behavior is, and how much less programmatic.
Put it this way: The aversion to killing another human being lies deep, I think, in our genetic makeup -- yet armies the world over have trained civilians to be killers without too much difficulty. The plasticity of morality is hopefully easier to see with that example.