(March 4, 2016 at 9:34 am)abaris Wrote:(March 4, 2016 at 9:29 am)Brian37 Wrote: Shindlers list, Saving Private Ryan, A Patch of Blue, Key Largo, all worthy movies.
Schindler's list, 1993.
Apart from that, you must have watched a different Private Ryan, since apart from the first 20 minutes, it's all flag waving heroism. Guy doesn't give a shit about his grieving mother or his dead brothers. His company is his family now and of course he will go on fighting, since he's your usual cardboard hero to present an ulterior motif.
You should watch some war movies from the early 70ies at some time, to really put things into perspective. From back when Reagan was nothing but a bad dream and society was as opposed to war as it gets.
Dude, seriously, whatever script flaws you thought it had, and that is fine, it it was still an important part of history, and as far as the depictions of violence on the beach, it was done extremely well and didn't gloss that part over. In reality, one thing about media, when it comes to REAL war today and even gun violence, we hide that shit far too much.
Now to be fair, regardless of your problem's with the plot, that real event we had no choice to do, and as much as I hate parts of our history in how we have treated minorities, that is one war even I support looking back. And I personally knew a vet, who didn't land on the beaches that day, but saw violent combat in Europe later in the war. That guy was also an atheist. He has since died, but it still was something we needed to do.
Shindlers list also did a even greater job of not sugar coating reality. The one scene that made me cry and scream at the same time was when the female architect told the Nazis they were building something wrong, and they fucking shot her. And the boy getting shot by the camp guard. Now not because they were Jews, but because they were my fellow human beings.
Yes I do cuss out religion, but not because I hate religious people, I simply hate bad logic. But human rights, yes even if you make a horrible claim as long as that claim isn't leading to violence or oppressive laws, the worst you will get from me is a "bullshit".
I think what those D-Day soldiers did was extremely important to maintain an open society. And I think what Schindler did represents the best in humanity. But I do agree, Hollywood could do a much better job being accurate and also do less blurring of the lines between entertainment and reality. It is ok to have both of course, but when it comes to our future, the lines should be more clear.
