(March 4, 2016 at 12:32 am)The_Empress Wrote:(March 3, 2016 at 11:54 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: What exactly is "morality" anyway? I'm going to chalk this up to yet another Xtian construct, and this is unfortunate -I believe the dialogue in this thread has been hopelessly muddled on account of the argument is based on a construct of nebulous definition (as is typical with religious constructs). Then again, I have observed in my last post that an objective judgement can be made on whether something one may do is social or anti-social. Is this enough to determine whether or not it's moral? If so, then maybe we can all agree on there being objective morality, and without any need for any theistic doctrine. But I don't think it would work for any theists who insist that their controversial prohibitions and requirements are also founded on objective morality.
I totally agree with you on the above. I just think you were assigning thoughts and opinions to C_L that she hasn't actually stated or that she's fully denied, either in this thread or in others. You can lump all Catholics in together if you really want, but their beliefs aren't all exactly the same, like whether Genesis is literal or not. I'm not sure, but I think I remember C_L saying she wouldn't vote against bodily autonomy, but we'd have to ask her to make sure.
(Please don't call me "Your Highness")
Now (and once again) it's you who are straw-manning me. I did not say CL would vote politically against bodily autonomy, but it's a fact that she has stated she believes abortion is wrong. It's also a fact (just ask her) that she has stated she accepts, without cherry-picking, the teachings of the Vatican, of which it can be presumed collects her tithe money. This may not be direct support of anti-abortion laws, but it is certainly a manner of support for every evil thing which bad Catholic political action organizations and bad priests, bishops and cardinals do.
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