(March 4, 2016 at 10:15 am)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote:(March 4, 2016 at 12:32 am)The_Empress Wrote: I totally agree with you on the above. I just think you were assigning thoughts and opinions to C_L that she hasn't actually stated or that she's fully denied, either in this thread or in others. You can lump all Catholics in together if you really want, but their beliefs aren't all exactly the same, like whether Genesis is literal or not. I'm not sure, but I think I remember C_L saying she wouldn't vote against bodily autonomy, but we'd have to ask her to make sure.
(Please don't call me "Your Highness")
Now (and once again) it's you who are straw-manning me. I did not say CL would vote politically against bodily autonomy, but it's a fact that she has stated she believes abortion is wrong. It's also a fact (just ask her) that she has stated she accepts, without cherry-picking, the teachings of the Vatican, of which it can be presumed collects her tithe money. This may not be direct support of anti-abortion laws, but it is certainly a manner of support for every evil thing which bad Catholic political action organizations and bad priests, bishops and cardinals do.
What do you mean by bodily autonomy? If we're just referring to abortion, then yes, I would vote against it for all cases except extreme circumstances where the mom would not survive (for which case the decision should be up to the doctor and the mom). This is because I think a human fetuses' life should be protected under the law just like everyone else's. I see it as going beyond bodily autonomy because you're hurting someone else.
If by bodily autonomy you mean contraception and having sex with whatever adult you want, then no. I would not vote for either of those things to be illegal.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh