RE: My views on objective morality
March 7, 2016 at 6:22 pm
(This post was last modified: March 7, 2016 at 6:23 pm by God of Mr. Hanky.)
(March 7, 2016 at 5:32 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(March 7, 2016 at 4:54 pm)The_Empress Wrote: I don't see how that answers my question. Did God create humans who are able to remove the free will of others or not? If so, he, even if by extension, regularly removes free will.
Sorry, I didn't realize it was a question.
Yes, when 2 people have sex God does not magically stop nature from happening and from a person being conceived and then born, as they otherwise would have. Even if He knows that person will grow up to do bad things, like take away another person's rights, He does not intervene. I word it like that is to show that I don't see God as being a wizard with a magic wand who "creates" people just like that. He does not micromanage our world. He allows nature to take its course, as I have explained.
Yes, God gave everyone free will. Some people choose to use their free will to hinder another person's free will at a particular time. Do I blame God for that, since He allows nature to take its course and thus allowed a person to be born, knowing that person would do something awful? No, I don't. I think He gave us brains and an inherent understanding of good and evil. I think we are all fully and solely responsible for our own actions. I guess I don't see it the same way as you... that God took away someone's free will because He created someone who did.
I can't answer why God thought it would be ultimately better to let nature take its coarse. But I'm ok with that. I'm not God.
God is not a wizard with a magic wand who "creates" people like that, even though he has all that power and more. He does not micromanage our world, he allows nature to take its course, which is a decision which would make anyone with the power to do otherwise derelict of the responsibilities which go with power. Your god's hands are not, and can never be clean when he allows evil things to happen when he is capable of changing the course of events. There are no "mysterious ways", there are only the excuses which his believers keep on making in order to hold on to the delusion that they remain faithful to the god of their delusions, which were implanted into their minds through childhood indoctrination.
The question is how much longer will you, CL, continue to make such excuses for your deity, knowing what you do on how childhood indoctrination has warped your mind? Your church does absolutely nothing to mitigate evil, and in fact it has been more than responsible for some horrible atrocities of its own. Your god stood by while thousands of Catholic children and women were raped by Catholic priests, and your church authorities still resist the mitigation of these crimes, because they are themselves the perpetrators! The Vatican supported the mandated pubiotomy operation against all Irish Catholic women giving birth in that country, for more than a century after other countries outlawed it. It was unimaginably painful, and caused permanent paralysis in many women. Your church enslaved Irish women for life in the Magdalene laundries, just for talking to boys when they were fourteen - they went in there, never to see their families again, forgotten. This slave industry existed to raise money for the futher empowerment of your church, yes, it's that one which is directed from the Vatican. The girls who were forced to work there were buried in mass graves! This is the god who you follow and support, who stands by and encourages this of evil people within the organization which receives your tithe money, as if they were acting on his own orders. Well, I don't think a god who encourages this sort of behavior through his failure of positive intercession is one who deserves the respect, much less the support of a decent person such as you. If you really are the decent person which you appear to be. The more you make excuses for that layabout creep, the more I doubt you really have much decency still in you.
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